Hi Randy,

A little late in the day but thought I'm add this to the discussion.

Your results posted below show that you are running with the initial
allocation of spool space that comes off the tape when you first install
z/VM 4.4. 

As you have already found out, this is enough to get you going, but
often needs to be expanded before starting a bunch of service machines
which may open console logs that eventually need more than the basic
amount that comes off the tapes.

And as someone else has already pointed out, the reason you have lots of
spool consumed but very few spool files in evidence is that the system
has automatically allocated space for a dump, just in case VM should
crash,  and that space is allocated in the spool.

The CP command Q DUMP will show you how many pages are preallocated in
spool to your dump files.

If you wish to, you can turn off the dump allocation by using the CP
command SET DUMP OFF

You can turn them back on with CP SET DUMP DASD

On an active system the size of the dump file can vary up and down if
you are using the SPXTAPE command to offload spool files for spool
backups. CP will use some of the dump space to keep track of the files
it is dumping (can you tell I've "been there, got the ETR t-shirt"). CP
will give back the pages used by SPXTAPE when your system gets busy, or
you can turn off the dumps and turn them back on again (SET DUMP OFF and
SET DUMP DASD) to free them up right away.

Rather than do this after every spool offload, I added another volume of
spool space. But I found once I went into production the normal amount
of spool usage by users, combined with the way the dump allocation
expanded and contracted (almost like the system was breathing!) when I
did my daily spool offloads, meant I was still seeing high alloc values,
and I ended up adding a second spool volume dedicated to DUMPs. 

Adding a second of third spool volume isn't too hard (just scary) and
can be done without an IPL (even scarier), if you are careful about the
way you add them. I know I kept console logs from when I did this, and
can share them if you like to see what I did.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Randy Dray
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Q ALLOC SPOOL ????

Hello List,

I issued a Q ALLOC SPOOL at vm console logged on as MAINT.

q alloc spool                                      
            EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26765  31680  83%
                          ------ ------        ----
SUMMARY                    32040  26765         83%
USABLE                     32040  26765         83%

Its used states 83%.

I q rdr all and got abunch of files.

Backed them up and then purged them off.

I did the same for PRT files.  Purged them all off.

DID NOT have any pun files.


QUESTION:  MY q alloc spool still hasn't moved off 83%.

I thought that % used would have dropped to almost nothing.

would thier be other files that Its looking at that I cant see by doing
a q rdr all or a q prt all????

recap at this point 

q prt all                                             
              
OWNERID  FILE CLASS RECORDS  CPY HOLD DATE  TIME    
NAME      TYPE  
OPERATOR 0011 T CON 00000049 001 NONE OPEN- 0009      
              
TCPIP    0002 T CON 00000007 001 NONE OPEN- 0009      
              
MAINT    0024 T CON 00000060 001 NONE OPEN- 0009      
              
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:36:24                           
              
q rdr al                                              
              
HCPCQF003E Invalid option - AL                        
              
Ready(00003); T=0.01/0.01 11:36:35                    
              
q rdr all                                             
              
OWNERID  FILE CLASS RECORDS  CPY HOLD DATE  
0PERATNS 0001 D SYS 00000000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS      
OPERATNS 0002 D SYS 00000000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS 
MAINT    0021 T CON 00000060 001 NONE 11/05 10:05:35  
              
MAINT    0022 T CON 00000063 001 NONE 11/05 10:39:22  
              

Thanks

Randy Dray
Systems Programmer
Morton Buildings Inc.

Morton IL

(309) 263-6397


        
                
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