See other note from me  (just sent).
The reason for changing PROFILE EXEC of an IBM-maintained "user"
is that when it runs on  *my*  system,  I will have certain
behaviours that I want applied to all service v-machines.
Combine that with the growing number of TCP/IP service v-machines
and the case becomes ever more heavy.

Again,  I don't expect to change IBM on this point.
When Colin got  "flamed"  [and we've now had that clarified too]
I took the opportunity to whine again.   I prefer to think of it as
re-iterating some history that might should be FAQ somewhere.

-- R;

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Nix, Robert P. wrote:

> Ah, but you aren't talking about a user's profile, or the profile of a 
> user-written server; you're talking about the profile of a vended product, 
> which has specific accepted ways of adding commands, that don't include 
> editing the profile. You say that the profile is the domain of the customer, 
> but isn't it really the domain of the individual user, which, in this case, 
> is actually IBM, running a product on your system. It really isn't "your" 
> profile. It belongs to the user, in this case, a service machine designed by 
> a vendor.
>
> You're definitely in the "Your arrow, your foot" area, as maintenance to the 
> product may well wipe out any changes you've made, and you won't get a lot of 
> sympathy from your avenues of support when it happens. You'd do well to read 
> and heed the manual, and stay out of the profile. It can only lead to being 
> found crunchy and drowned in ketchup.
>
>
> --
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>  in practice, theory and practice are different."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick 
> Troth
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: PROFILEs [was: CP MSG/MSGNOH from SMTP]
>
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Alan Altmark wrote:
> > I'm sorry; I must be hard of hearing, too.  I thought you said "inserted
> > the following code in the PROFILE EXEC".  I'm sure what you actually said
> > was "created an exit invoked by the :Exit. tag for the SMTP server (for
> > SETUP only)".  'cuz no one in their right (or left) mind would modify the
> > PROFILE EXEC of an IBM-provided TCP/IP server.  No one.
>
> PROFILE EXEC is as much the domain of the VM/CMS customer
> as $HOME/.profile is the domain of the Unix customer.
>

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