As for the method of freeing the userid, the trick was to change the userid in 
the hung VMBLOCK. That method quit working when hashing was introduced. I think 
that was done with VM/XA. If you try it on a modern system, you are almost 
guaranteed that you will experience an unplanned outage.

  
 -----Original Message-----
From:   VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Tom 
Duerbusch
Sent:   Monday, December 19, 2005 9:21 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        forcing a user

Hopefully this won't get to any point where I have to take drastic
action....

We have an old VSE machine (VSE/ESA 2.3.2), which somehow got hung
this
weekend.  My best guess is that it hung when one of our tape drives
broke, but I can't be sure it was using them.

I have the "forced logoff pending" stuff.
Yep, tried:

force guest
force guest logoff
force guest logoff immediate
force guest immediate

Tried logging on.
There are no tape drives currently attached to the system, but someone
may have detached them earlier.

My plan was to wait an hour and see if it clears up.  Well, times up.

There was a method, in the old days, that you modified some bits in
some control block and you can free up the user.  Does anyone have
that
procedure, updated for z/VM 5.1 (RSU 501)?

Any other advice would also be welcome.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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