I'm only an outsider, so I everything I say is only rumors. On the other 
hand, my job won't be 
threatened if I tell them, as insiders might be.

PL/S, PL/AS, PL/X, etc. are PL/I-like system programming languages. (Kind
 of like C is in the Unix 
world.) PL/S originally was invented at Stanford -- they published a pape
r on it (which I read in the 
UCSC library).

The idea was to improve the productivity of IBMs own programmers. They ev
en published a 
manual to help us systems programmers read PL/S listing. (Wish I still ha
d my copy!) Then IBM 
came up with restricted source and later OCO. (The SHARE song says "to be
at the good old rising 
sun, they came up with restrict".) They apparently felt that protecting P
L/X was required as part of 
this nonsense. The Japanese threat has evaporated, but the MVS (oops, z/O
S) world still thinks 
that z/OS source code is an asset that must be protected at all costs. (S
omeone might actually 
come up something better. Horrors!) For years, the IBMers who own PL/X ha
ve kept it under wraps 
for no good reason that I can see. In the last couple of years there have
 been sessions on PL/X in 
the MVS group at SHARE (with handouts on the language!). They are thinkin
g about releasing the 
PL/X language -- but only if they can make money at it. (Don't hold your 
breath!

We in the SHARE VM community (and others) fought long and hard to keep VM
 source open. That's 
why it mostly is, and also why the PL/X source remains available. Unfortu
nately, parts of VM were 
written in PL/X. As Melinda Varian said "I want to fix it in the language
 it broke in". Without a PL/X 
compiler available to customers, you cannot do that. 

If you are a vendor, you can get access to the PL/X compiler, so you can 
make modifications in 
support of your products. I don't know what the current rules and restric
tions are on this privilege, 
though.

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 17:16:10 -0700, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Alan Altmark wrote:
>
>>And VM *still* bucks the trend even today.  We continue to ship source 
and
>>source maintenence, aren't worried about people seeing PL/X source,
>>
>>
>While we're on the subject, what the heck was that about?
>
>I encountered PL/X in 1994 and thought it was right jolly, and then
>discovered
>that IBM wanted to keep it out of people's hands.
>
>Seemed silly then. Seems silly now.
>
>Now, if they would only find a way to keep C# out of people's hands ... 
:-)
>
>--
>Jack J. Woehr                 # "Men never do evil so completely and
>PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402   #  cheerfully as when they do it from
>http://www.well.com/~jax      #  religious conviction." - Pascal
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