They are not going to be able to get away with "no third party software" while 
the anti-trust suit settlement is still pending.  I think even Microsoft must 
realize this by now.

There are many other problem cases.  For example, I use the cygwin servers 
(ssh, sftp) etc. on Windows boxes; are these allowed?

My opinion (which is I will concede a minority opinion, and perhaps even a 
minority opinion of one) is that Microsoft won't try to enforce this w.r.t. 
VNC.  The would be saying, you can use _our_ terminal services server, and 
you can use _our_ telnet server, and you can use _our_ ftp server, but you 
can't use the same functionality from a third party.  If that isn't restraint 
of trade, then nothing is.

It is conceivable that they can argue that you need to have purchased one of 
their server O/S versions (that is, say, W2K server instead of W2K 
professional) because the server side functionality is not available in the 
non-server versions of Windows.  This may be legally defensible but it would 
be a P/R disaster, and I doubt they will try it.

On Thursday 05 September 2002 08:03, Paul Noah wrote:
> Well if I understand this, then programs like pcAnywhere are also not
> allowed. Since telnet isn't mentioned as allowed I would assume that the
> Windows 2000/XP built in telnet server is now allowed either.
>
> What's next - "By agreeing to this license you agree to not use any third
> party software."
>
> At 09:44 AM 9/5/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >That was an article in InfoWorld
> >(http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/03/18/020318oplivingston.xml)
> >
> >These guys are something else.
> >
> >Stephan.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Daniel Wyllie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: September 5, 2002 8:57 AM
> >Subject: Microsoft EULA
> >
> > > I have heard that Microsoft have included in their EULA for Windows
> > > 2000 Pro, Server and Windows XP operating systems a little item about
> > > VNC.
> > >
> > > It is supposed to state that if a PC/Server, running one of those OS's,
> > > has VNC installed, then you need to purchase CALS to cover for each PC
> > > on the network which is capble of connecting to it via VNC.
> > >
> > > I have not seen the EULA mentioning VNC myself, but I am wondering if
> > > anyone subscribed to this list has heard of this?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel Wyllie
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