> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beerse, Corni" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: vrijdag 20 juni 2003 14:22
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VNC over different subnet mask
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We've just run out of IP addresses on our network, so we're
> > moving to a different scope,
>
> Should be a totally different scope, not just an other
> netmask, also an
> other network. Then the routers can do a lot for you, now you
> only have to
> hope your routers can coop with the stuff.
>
> If you use a totally different network, then just connect the
> same router
> with a second port to the same network. configure this new
> port as one (the
> gateway) of the new network and off you go.

BTW: With this other network, I indicated an other IP-Network address, no
new hardware needed!!!

THe IP-Network address is that part of the IP address of any machine in the
network where the netmask is (binary) 1.
The IP-machine address is that part of the IP address of the machine in the
network where the netmask is (binary) 0.

So to complete the example: use for example network 192.168.64.0/21
netmask 255.255.248.0
range 192.168.64.1 - 192.168.71.254
broadcast: 192.168.71.255
network: 192.168.64.0

>
>
> > current IPs are running
> > 192.168.60.1 - 255 the
>
> Wild guess: subnet was 255.255.255.0?
> That makes the next pre-defined (not for host usable) addresses:
> network: 192.168.60.0
> broadcast: 192.168.60.255
>
> The available host range: 192.168.60.1 - 192.168.60.254
>
> prefered hosts (not requred, its just most tools provide this
> as default
> values once the address and netmask of the above network is defined):
> gateway: 192.168.60.254, network services (dns, dhcp etc):
> 192.168.60.1
>
> > new scope is 192.168.61.1 - 255. and subnet mask 255.255.248.0
>
> That makes:
> network: 192.168.56.0
> broadcast: 192.168.63.255
> The available host range: 192.168.56.1 - 192.168.63.254 with
> the prefered
> hosts on the boundaries as before. It is perfectly acceptable
> to use other
> addresses for the gateway and the network services,
>
> You see, the network address and the broadcast address of one
> network are
> host addresses on the other network.
>
>
> > When I try to connect with VNC from my PC (old
> > scope) to a new PC (new
> > scope) it fails. I've changed my subnet mask to
> > 255.255.248.0, but it stills fails. Is there anyway around it?
>
> As long as a machine thinks it is on the old network, all
> addresses outside
> this network are forwarded to the defined gateway. No problem
> from this
> host.
>
> If the gateway is already configured for the new network, bad
> luck, it just
> ignores the call since the message is already on the proper
> network, no need
> to `gateway` the message.
>
> If the gateway is still configured for the old network, it
> depends on the
> routing tables. If the routing tables are still in the old
> network state,
> bad luck, your message goes out to the other networks, but
> not back to the
> network with the double configuration.
>
> Only if the gateway has its network-connection configured for the old
> network and has updated routing tables to route messages to
> the new network
> (but not in the old network) back to the old network, then
> you might get a
> connection.
>
> Hence, best to do a big-bang update of all machines: proper operating
> systems can do that on the fly. Or if you want to do it
> silently, do it to
> an other network addres, not one that includes the old network.
>
>
>
> CBee
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