Let me explain where I'm coming from. We're combining VNC with our Dynamic DNS software and what's distinctly evident from the volume of tech support calls we receive is that the end-user is stumped when they try to access their PC and the browser just displays an "X" instead of the Java VNC Viewer applet. Furthermore, this is perceived by the end-user as a flaw in our software.
The average end-user has no idea (and doesn't care) that a JVM is required and just wants it to "work". I agree that JRE is easy to install, but that still generates a tech support call to us so we can tell the end-user to go to Sun and download an 8MB JVM.
If it is at a company network or such, best to install the vncviewer on those machines. Its just a binary that can be dumped roughly everywhere.
For what its worth, just dump it on your samba-server and give users the shortcut to `\\samba\path\to\vncviewer.exe host_to_see:0`
No need to use any overhead at all.
CBee
I'm no fan of Microsoft or their practices, but their browser penetration is so significant that we have to look for a more "transparent" solution and ActiveX may provide this for us.
How transparent will you have it? If you put `vncviewer` in the path, then you can use it at every host, even a M$-os.
Stephan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: Web-based VNC access
-----Message d'origine----- De : Stephan A. Edelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyi : mercredi 7 avril 2004 14:05 @ : Seak, Teng-Fong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: Web-based VNC access
I welcome the availability of an ActiveX control for two reasons: (1)
The
reality is that Java is becoming less accessible due to the fact that Microsoft has decided to remove it from its browser. Installation of a
JVM
is less than transparent to the average end-user.
That would depend on what you mean, or what you want, by the word
"transparent". That means IE installs it without the end-user knowing it. Virus does that as well ;-)
As a matter of fact, installing JRE is just "next", "next", "next". If
this isn't simple enough for an end-user, sorry to say that, I think his IQ is well below 100. Computer is probably not for him. Well, he could go to a video shop and rent a film. That's certainly easier :-D
(2) Microsoft's JVM far outperforms Sun's JVM due to the fact that it does JIT byte-code
compilation
into a Windows native executable form, whereas Sun's JVM is completely interpreted. This translates into a much slower VNC response than is the case for MS JVM or an ActiveX control.
True, but there're also other JRE which are more performant than Sun's,
even though I don't know which one is best.
My $0.02 worth...
Stephan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: RE: Web-based VNC access
ActiveX? That means it can only be displayed on IE and only on
Windows
platforms. Sorry to tell you, this is a regression and opposite the
idea of
VNC which is multi-platform and multi-environment.
pffff...
-----Message d'origine----- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyi : mercredi 7 avril 2004 08:05 @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Web-based VNC access
Hello fellow VNC users, I'm glad to let you know that today we have released a simple, but
yet
useful web based VNC access. Basically this is a web page, which hosts our VNC ActiveX control,
and
allows you to access your VNC server from a browser window. Currently this feature is available for Windows users with Internet
Explorer
installed (we haven't tested it with other browsers yet).
Here is the link to the Web VNC page: http://www.s-code.com/webvnc.aspx?menu=webvnc
Comments and bug reports on this feature are greatly appreciated. Best regards, Yury
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