Martin,

I certainly have tried to understand the problem (I use all three, TS,
Remote Desktop and VNC) but the bottom line is I don't mix TS/RD with VNC
on the same machine.  Even if it doesn't work some of the time (and my
experience is that it does not work 100% of the time but may be because I
am always the console session for my XP system) my requirement is that
remote management MUST work 100% of the time and mixing the two doesn't do
it.  I use TS/RD on my XP systems and VNC on my non-XP systems.  Do your
users use TS/RD or VNC?  Stick with what they use, or if they use neither
the choice is yours.

That's just a practical answer and I know it does not help your
understanding.  If you were raised Catholic, you probably know what
mysteries of faith are (things you accept with no good logical explanation
- not to say an explanation does not exist but maybe you don't understand
it).  I consider this one of those and just go with what works!!

Alan.

Alan Watchorn
Eshelman Appraisals, Inc.
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Martin Laukkanen said:
>>From my experience the problem occurs often when using Sevice-mode and
> console sessions, I can certainly understand the problems with other TS
> sessions, but when disconnecting from the console session why does that
> sometimes cause VNC sessions to freeze?
>
> I'd like to understand this problem a little more, at present my company
> is planning a major upgrade of our remote management application, and
> unfortunately my recommendations will be to move away from the current
> total reliance on vnc to rdp largely due to this problem (basically more
> and more xp and 2k3 machines means this problem will only get worse).
> Unfortunately despite this problem being rather well known very little
> detailed info is available and so very little options are available for
> working around this.
>
> Ideally I would like to be able to use VNC and RDP console together..
>
> --
> Martin Laukkanen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of James Weatherall
> Sent: 09 August 2004 17:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VNC and RDP 5.0 (Windows 2003) incompatabilities
>
> The problem described is only an issue if the session being remoted by
> VNC
> is a TS session - this is often the case with the console session when
> Fast
> User Switching or Remote Desktop are used under XP.
>
> Under 2K3, running a User-Mode VNC Server process inside a TS session
> and
> then disconnecting the TS session is the way to see the problem.  VNC
> Server
> in Service-Mode will happily remote the console session of 2K3
> regardless of
> whether or not TS is used for other sessions.
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 08 August 2004 12:54
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: VNC and RDP 5.0 (Windows 2003) incompatabilities
>>
>> I'm following this thread, but I'm missing something.
>>
>> I'm operating Windows 2003 standard server (two of them) on
>> the Intranet and I don't have any problems running an RDP
>> session and a VNC session at the same time.
>>
>> Mind you, I'm operating TS in administration mode on the
>> server.  Maybe the people suffering from the RDP/VNC issues
>> are running TS in licensed mode?
>>
>> At 21:40 03/08/2004, Stewart Castaldi wrote:
>> >I second this.  I first encountered this problem after
>> upgrading from VNC 3.3.7 to VNC 4.0.  Downgrading back to VNC
>> 3.3.7 did not correct the problem.  There is definitely an
>> interaction between RDP and VNC on Windows 2003 boxes which
>> render VNC pretty much unusable unless you don't use RDP.
>> >--
>> >Stewart Castaldi                  Fred Hutchinson Cancer
>> Research Center
>> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]         1100 Fairview Ave. N., MS: J4-300
>> >Phone: 206-667-6426               P.O. Box 19024
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