VNC 3.3.7 didn't support local cursor rendering at all, in either the viewer
or the server.  So connecting VNC 3.3.7 viewer to VNC 4 server and vice
versa are equivalent in that respect.

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 01 September 2004 14:06
> To: 'David Balazic'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'James Weatherall'
> Subject: RE: No cursor shown with VNC/UltraVNC1.00R18 combination
> 
> I don't see it anywhere else. But if I connect to another 
> server ( 3.3.7, has no cursor problems ), then I don't see 
> the cursor message in the logs at all, not even after a format change.
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       1. september 2004 15:02
> > To:         'David Balazic'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    RE: No cursor shown with VNC/UltraVNC1.00R18 combination
> > 
> > David,
> > 
> > It's normal to see that message immediately after a pixel 
> format change.
> > If
> > you see it anywhere else, then it indicates that the viewer 
> was sent 
> > an empty cursor by the server.
> > 
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 01 September 2004 13:55
> > > To: 'David Balazic'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'James Weatherall'
> > > Subject: RE: No cursor shown with VNC/UltraVNC1.00R18 combination
> > > 
> > > It prints this twice :
> > > 
> > >  CView:       attempting to render invalid local cursor
> > > 
> > > Here is the complete output :
> > > VNC Viewer 4.0 - VNC Viewer for Win32, Version 4.0 Built 
> on Jun 15 
> > > 2004 at 14:29:29 Copyright ? RealVNC Ltd. 2002-2004
> > > 
> > >  Registry:    duplicated 80000001 to 80000001
> > >  RegConfig:   unable to process dummy
> > >  Threading:   created          RegConfig(844760)
> > >  Registry:    duplicated 50 to 58
> > >  Threading:   started          RegConfig(844760)
> > >  Registry:    duplicated 80000001 to 80000001
> > >  MsgWindow:   creating window "CViewManager"
> > >  RegConfig:   RegReaderThread started
> > >  RegConfig:   waiting for changes
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2f040e, message 24
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2f040e, message 81
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2f040e, message 83
> > >  MsgWindow:   created window "CViewManager" (2f040e)
> > >  Threading:   created          Native(8447f0)
> > >  Threading:   created          CView(844878)
> > >  Threading:   started          CView(844878)
> > >  MsgWindow:   creating window "Clipboard"
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2e0498, message 24
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2e0498, message 81
> > >  MsgWindow:   null _this in 2e0498, message 83
> > >  MsgWindow:   created window "Clipboard" (2e0498)
> > >  Clipboard:   local clipboard changed by b03ac
> > >  Clipboard:   no clipboard notifier registered
> > >  Clipboard:   registered clipboard handler
> > >  CView:       null _this in 580448, message 36
> > >  CView:       null _this in 580448, message 129
> > >  CView:       null _this in 580448, message 131
> > >  CView:       created window "VNC Viewer 4.0b" (580448)
> > >  Threading:   created          ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   started          ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   joining          ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   stopped          ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   checking         ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   joined           ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   destroying       ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   already joined   ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > >  Threading:   destroyed        ConnectingDialog(a4fecc)
> > > keycode=1
> > > selected 1
> > >  RegConfig:   unable to process dummy
> > >  RegConfig:   waiting for changes
> > >  CConnection: reading protocol version
> > >  CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.6
> > >  CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.3
> > >  CConnection: processing security types message
> > >  CConnection: processing security message
> > >  Dialog:      string[1005]=
> > >  Dialog:      enable[1005]=0
> > > 
> > > Wed Sep 01 14:52:02 2004
> > >  CConnection: processing security result message
> > >  CConnection: processing security result message
> > >  CConnection: Authentication success!
> > >  Clipboard:   change clipboard chain (220134, 0)
> > > 
> > > Wed Sep 01 14:52:03 2004
> > >  CConnection: reading server initialisation
> > >  CView:       setDesktopSize 1024x768
> > >  DIBSection:  one of area or format not set
> > >  MonitorInfo: moveToMonitor
> > >  MonitorInfo: monitor=10001
> > >  MonitorInfo: monitor is 0,0-1024,768
> > >  MonitorInfo: work area is 0,0-1024,768
> > >  MonitorInfo: device is "\\.\DISPLAY1"
> > >  CView:       setName opticus ( 10.49.2.22 )
> > >  CConnection: initialisation done
> > >  CView:       getNativePF()
> > >  DeviceContext: BitFields format: 32, (ff0000, ff00, ff)
> > >  CView:       requesting initial update
> > >  DIBSection:  area=786432, bpp=8
> > >  DIBSection:  recreateBuffer()
> > >  DIBSection:  refreshing palette
> > >  DIBSection:  creating 6-bit TrueColour palette
> > >  DIBSection:  refreshing palette
> > >  CView:       Using pixel format depth 8 (8bpp) rgb max 3,3,3 
> > > shift 4,2,0
> > >  CView:       getNativePF()
> > >  DeviceContext: BitFields format: 32, (ff0000, ff00, ff)
> > >  CView:       Using ZRLE encoding
> > >  CView:       attempting to render invalid local cursor
> > >  CView:       Throughput 20270 kbit/s - changing to 
> hextile encoding
> > >  CView:       Throughput 20270 kbit/s - changing to full colour
> > >  DIBSection:  area=786432, bpp=16
> > >  DIBSection:  recreateBuffer()
> > >  DIBSection:  preserving bitmap contents
> > >  CView:       Using pixel format depth 16 (16bpp) 
> little-endian rgb565
> > >  CView:       getNativePF()
> > >  DeviceContext: BitFields format: 32, (ff0000, ff00, ff)
> > >  CView:       Using hextile encoding
> > >  CView:       attempting to render invalid local cursor
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:   James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent:   31. avgust 2004 17:53
> > > > To:     'David Balazic'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject:        RE: No cursor shown with 
> VNC/UltraVNC1.00R18 combination
> > > > 
> > > > David,
> > > > 
> > > > It sounds as though their server isn't handling 
> locally-rendered 
> > > > cursors properly.
> > > > 
> > > > To check what the viewer is seeing, you can try running
> > > your vncviewer
> > > > with the command-line:
> > > > 
> > > > vncviewer -console -log=*:stderr:100 <host>
> > > > 
> > > > to see whether it prints any messages regarding the cursor.
> > > > 
> > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Balazic
> > > > > Sent: 31 August 2004 14:23
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: No cursor shown with VNC/UltraVNC1.00R18 combination
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have UltraVNC 1.00 RC18 on Windows NT 4.0 Server SP6 as
> > > "server".
> > > > > Client is VNC 4.0 on Win2000Pro-SP4.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is no cursor visible, when I connect to the remote 
> > > > > desktop, except for that little square.
> > > > > If I use VNC3.3.7 as client, there is no proble. If I use
> > > UltraVNC
> > > > > 1.00RC18 as client,then again there is no problem (
> > > regadless of the
> > > > > viewers "Mouse Cursor" option, both "Track remote 
> cursor locally" 
> > > > > and "Let remote server deal with mouse cursor"
> > > > > work ).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also see , that if in VNCViewer 4.0 the option
> > > "Misc/Render cursor
> > > > > locally" is turned OFF, then the cursor is visible. 
> If it it ON 
> > > > > ( which is the default ), then the cursor is NOT visible.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I did not have this problem before, when the server 
> was runing 
> > > > > VNCserver 3.3.7.
> > > > > I also do not have this problem with another server system ( 
> > > > > also running WinVNC 3.3.7 )
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > David
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > -----------
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