John at al,

The notion of VNC "binding" to a particular _interface_ is bogus.  When
accepting incoming connections, services "bind" to a particular host _IP
address_.  Like most other services, VNC binds to INADDR_NONE, which means
it accepts connections via all the host's addresses.  If your TCP/IP stack
is working correctly then this will allow the server to accept connections
on any valid IP address for the host, regardless of when they were added to
it.  The _only_ situation in which VNC Server binds to a specific address is
when accepting connections only from localhost.

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wall, John
> Sent: 24 September 2004 00:19
> To: Ward, Stuart; VNC List; 'Chris Goodwin'
> Subject: RE: local host vs local address
> 
> Hi Stuart,
> 
> My experiences with VNC Server re binding are mainly to do 
> with using VNC as a service on a dial up connexion. The 
> binding occurs before you are connected thus you only have 
> your Network Interface Card default IP.
> 
> Once connected I usually have to Stop & Start the VNC service 
> to rebind.
> 
> John
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Chris Goodwin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply To:   Chris Goodwin
> > Sent:       Friday, 24 September 2004 1:18 AM
> > To:         Ward, Stuart; VNC List
> > Subject:    Re: local host vs local address
> > 
> > Thanks, Stuart, this particular station is still @ SP1, 
> fully patched.
> > 
> > One note: If I do not register VNC Server as a service 
> during install, 
> > but trigger the manual mode from a shortcut in the Startup 
> folder, it 
> > binds to the correct IP every time. I can only assume that 
> some other 
> > program prevents it from doing so at boot.
> > 
> > I appreciate any input - thanks for your response, Stuart!
> > 
> > Chris Goodwin
> > Sandware Business Systems
> > 
> > We manage technology so you can manage your business.
> > http://www.sandware.net
> > voice: 910.639.3055
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "VNC List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: local host vs local address
> > 
> > 
> > > This may be related to SP2 issue that a recent fix has 
> been put out 
> > > for
> > by
> > > MS.
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:01 PM
> > > To: VNC List
> > > Subject: local host vs local address
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the same issue as the gentleman below. I have 
> WinVNC4 running 
> > > as
> > a
> > > service on a XP Home machine. It is behind a Linksys wireless 
> > > router, so
> > the
> > > appropriate ports are forwarded to the machine's IP.
> > >
> > > My issue has been that intermittently, WinVNC binds to 127.0.0.1, 
> > > then
> > other
> > > times binds appropriately to 192.168.1.150. I have successfully 
> > > accessed
> > the
> > > machine to perform maintenance, etc., previously, but 
> today WinVNC 
> > > bound
> > to
> > > the localhost address, leaving me unable to access it.
> > >
> > > To reiterate, the installation works intermittently, but 
> it has worked.
> > >
> > > - not set to loopback only
> > > - wireless LAN connection working normally
> > > - the machine has been running all day, and I get a "connection
> > refused",
> > so
> > > it's not the IP display update issue
> > >
> > > Any other ideas on what would make WinVNC bind to the localhost?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Chris Goodwin
> > >
> > > Max,
> > >
> > > VNC Server binds to network interfaces in one of two 
> ways.  Either:
> > >
> > > - It binds to all network interfaces (INADDR_ANY), or
> > > - It binds only to the local loopback interface (127.0.0.1)
> > >
> > > If your tray icon says that it has bound to 127.0.0.1 then one of 
> > > three things has happened:
> > >
> > > - Your machine only has local loopback & no network interface is
> > available
> > > - You have explicitly configured VNC Server to only 
> listen for local 
> > > loopback connections
> > > - VNC Server is actually listening on INADDR_ANY, but the 
> tray icon
> > contents
> > > are out of date and reflect a point in time before the network
> > interfaces
> > > had come up.  This tray icon behaviour is a known bug.  It could 
> > > cause a Service-Mode server to show "Not accepting 
> connections" or "127.0.0.1"
> > in
> > > some cases.
> > >
> > > I assume that you've tried connecting to the server in 
> spite of the 
> > > tray icon's contents and established that it's not 
> accepting connections?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > >
> > >
> > > > In the tray, on the server icon, I can read the IP that 
> is being used.
> > > > so when run as a service it says 127.0.0.1 and my PC cannot be 
> > > > reached remotly.
> > > > and when I launch server manually it reads 192.168.0.100 and 
> > > > RealVNC works fine.
> > > > I like to use it as a service, as I never know in 
> advance when I 
> > > > need to reach my machine ...
> > > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw "at" realvnc.com] 
> Envoyi : lundi
> > > > 13 septembre 2004 12:59 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list "at" 
> > > > realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Max,
> > > >
> > > > What precisely do you mean by "takes 127.0.0.1" and "takes 
> > > > 192.168.0.100"?
> > > >
> > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Big Max Leo [mailto:bigmax "at" bigmax.org]
> > > > > Sent: 13 September 2004 11:50
> > > > > To: 'James Weatherall'; vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > Subject: RE : local host vs local address,
> > > > >
> > > > > It takes the right IP (192.168.0.100 for instance), 
> which is one 
> > > > > of the address I "reserved" in the routeur config to 
> assign to 
> > > > > one specific machine (associated with MAC address).
> > > > > Real VNC takes 127.0.0.1 when I run it as a service, 
> and takes 
> > > > > 192.168.0.100 when I launch it manually :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw "at" realvnc.com] Envoyi : 
> > > > > lundi
> > > > > 13 septembre 2004 12:45 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list "at" 
> > > > > realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Max,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you explain precisely what you mean by "takes the 
> right IP"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Big Max Leo [mailto:bigmax "at" bigmax.org]
> > > > > > Sent: 13 September 2004 11:32
> > > > > > To: 'James Weatherall'; vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE : local host vs local address,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I have checked.
> > > > > > I just installed another free VNC product and I don't run
> > > > in the pb
> > > > > > : it takes the right IP no matter how you start the
> > > > server (manually
> > > >
> > > > > > or as a
> > > > > > service) as opposed to RealVNC that only takes the 
> right IP if 
> > > > > > I start the server manually for some unknown reason.
> > > > > > The problem started after the WIFI router 
> installation, I had 
> > > > > > to configure the router to differentiate my 3 
> machines to make 
> > > > > > sure I would access the right one remotly.
> > > > > > I use the router as DHCP server and reserve 3 specifics 
> > > > > > address in the range for my 3 machines, (to get the same IP 
> > > > > > every time) then I use port forwarding to reach on 
> the right 
> > > > > > port with VNC (I give each of the 3 VNC servers a specific 
> > > > > > port number)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > De : vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com
> > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com]
> > > > > > De la part de James Weatherall Envoyi : lundi 13 septembre 
> > > > > > 2004
> > > > > > 11:57 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list "at" realvnc.com 
> Objet : RE:
> > > > local host
> > > >
> > > > > > vs local address,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Max(?),
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you checked that you don't have "Only accept 
> connections 
> > > > > > from the local machine" ticked in the Connections 
> tab of the 
> > > > > > VNC Server
> > > > > > (Service-Mode) Options panel?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Big Max Leo
> > > > > > > Sent: 12 September 2004 19:05
> > > > > > > To: vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > > > Subject: local host vs local address,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been using Real VNC for a while with great 
> success, 
> > > > > > > but I changed my config and I am now using a WIFI router 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > is used as
> > > > > > > DHCP server; I use port forwarding because I have
> > > > > > > 3 PCs that I need to access remotely from time to 
> time ....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everything would be great BUT, it works ONLY if I start
> > > > > > manually the
> > > > > > > realVNC serveur if I run it as a service, it takes the
> > > > local host
> > > > > > > address 127.0.0.1 and when run manually it takes my lan
> > > > > ip address
> > > > > > > 192.168.0.100 and everything runs fine ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can't figure it out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Big Max Leo
> > > > > > > Queen of the Cyber Jungle
> > > > > > > bigmax "at" bigmax.org
> > > > > > > www.bigmax.org <http://www.bigmax.org/> 
> www.stevepotts.net 
> > > > > > > <http://www.stevepotts.net/> Beware : my anti-spam filter
> > > > > > is a little
> > > > > > > too much sometimes ...... and deletes some mail 
> from friends !
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