Scott,

The blacklisting algorithm uses exponential back-off, so it really *does*
prevent dictionary attacks from being viable.

As regards the possibility of DoS attacks - yes, they are possible but the
DoS attack you describe prevents anyone on the attacking host from accessing
it, while a dictionary attack would actually grant the attacker access to
that server, which is clearly worse!

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott C. Best
> Sent: 01 June 2005 19:42
> To: James Weatherall
> Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Blacklisted IP address
> 
> Wez:
> 
>       I agree it *slows down* a dictionary attack, but it cannot
> prevent one. I also agree it's a good idea, but not a "free" one: by 
> adding Blacklisting, you've of course created a denial-of-service 
> vulnerability (e.g., an applet that did nothing but repeatedly open
> and close TCP sockets to 127.0.0.1:5900 would prevent legitimate, 
> SSH-tunneled VNC connections).
> 
> cheers,
> Scott
> 
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, James Weatherall wrote:
> 
> > Scott & Lee,
> >
> > Blacklisting prevents individual hosts from being used to 
> dictionary attack
> > a VNC Server.  It's a security feature and disabling it is 
> A Bad Thing.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott C. Best
> >> Sent: 01 June 2005 17:33
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: Blacklisted IP address
> >>
> >> Lee:
> >>
> >>    Heya. Blacklisting only happens if a client tries
> >> and fails to connect repeatedly -- it seems to be about
> >> 5 times in a 10 second interval (empirical data, here;
> >> I'm not actually sure what the "interval" for failures
> >> is). Once blacklisting is triggered, it takes the
> >> "BlacklistTimeout" number of seconds until the server will
> >> again accept connections from that IP address.
> >>
> >>    To effectively disable this feature, you can set
> >> the "BlacklistTimeout" registry key in ../WinVNC4 to "0".
> >> But...your email suggests that an IP address is being
> >> "blocked", so maybe it's really an AuthHosts problem, not
> >> a blacklisting one?
> >>
> >>    Along these lines...I'm not sure I see the point
> >> of blacklisting the loopback interface. That's like making
> >> sure the front door is securely locked after the bad guys
> >> are already in the house. :)
> >>
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >>> Does anyone know how to unblacklist an IP address that is
> >>> being blocked.
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