Pat,

I meant does the cursor move at the server when you move it at the viewer
when the screen being shown is all-black.

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 01 September 2005 23:06
> To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> 
>  James: 
> 
>       Very good question.  Yes the mouse works, but instead of the
> usual white arrow, I get a small (very small) white box as the cursor.
> I cannot tell if the keyboard is working as all I see is the black
> screen.
> 
>       I will look for logged errors in the application event log.  
> 
>       Any viewer that connects sees the black screen unless the Server
> is reset, according to how I explained before.
> 
>       Server is running XP  most viewers are running XP too,
> occasionally Win 2000 is used on the viewer side.  No 
> difference in the
> black screen problem.  By the way I did turn off fast user 
> switching, no
> effect.
> 
>       Kind regards - Pat
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:39 AM
> To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> 
> Pat,
> 
> When you re-connect to your server and find that the display 
> appears to
> be black, do the mouse and keyboard still work in spite of 
> that?  Do you
> get any errors logged from WinVNC4 in the Application Event Log on the
> server?
> 
> Have you seen this problem with any other systems?
> 
> Which operating system is the server running?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 26 August 2005 22:17
> > To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > 
> >  James:
> > 
> >     Well, the VNC Server is running as a system service on the
> computer I 
> > am trying to access remotely so in the service mode.  (But I don't 
> > think it make much difference I turn it on and leave it running).
> > Now on the viewer side initially everything is fine, I can see the 
> > remote server screen, and this will work indefinitely.  But when I 
> > shut the viewer session down, lets say after 10 min. when I 
> bring the 
> > viewer session up again it connects but all I get is a 
> black or blank 
> > screen, the connection is present but the view of the 
> remote server is
> 
> > not present.
> > 
> >     To get a non-blank screen session on the viewer, I must have
> someone 
> > at the remote PC shut down the VNC Server (service) and 
> restart it.  
> > Then on the viewer side I get both the connection and the remote 
> > machine display visible on the viewer.
> > 
> >     I hope this helps clarify the problem.  If not maybe you have a 
> > specific question.
> > 
> >     Regards - Pat
> > 
> > 
> > I'm afraid I can't really understand the description of the problem
> > > > that you provide here.  You refer to resetting the
> > system, but then
> > > > describe shutting down a User-Mode VNC Server and
> > restarting it, as
> > > > far as I can tell.  Which do you actually mean?  Are you really 
> > > > running VNC Server in User-Mode, or in Service-Mode?  I
> > also don't
> > > > understand "After that time period however, all you get
> > is a blank
> > > > screen, if you shut down the local PC and try to
> > establish another
> > > > session, until you reset the remote server end again. " 
> > at all - if
> > > > you've shut down the PC then it is off and will not respond to 
> > > > connection attempts at all.
> > > > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:49 AM
> > To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > 
> > Pat,
> > 
> > Sorry, I was hoping you would re-state the problem using 
> the standard 
> > terminology, since I'm afraid I was still a little confused 
> as to what
> 
> > you were describing!
> > 
> > The port used for RFB traffic is normally port 5900 under Windows.
> > 
> > Packet size is a fundamental characteristic of the 
> underlying network 
> > and has nothing to do with VNC (unless it's incorrectly 
> configured at 
> > one or other end, in which case it can cause network 
> applications such
> 
> > as VNC to stop working).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 26 August 2005 16:30
> > > To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > > 
> > > James:
> > >   Thank you.
> > > 
> > >    To my other question: can you tell me What firewall
> > configuration
> > > ports need to be open, and what packet size should be used? What 
> > > settings on the client side interact with firewall if any.
> > Is there a
> > > timer on ports for firewall?
> > > 
> > >   Regard - Pat
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:24 AM
> > > To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > > 
> > > Pat,
> > > 
> > > The relevant terminology is:
> > > 
> > > User-Mode means VNC Server running as a normal application on the 
> > > computer you are trying to access remotely.
> > > Service-Mode means VNC-Server running as a system service on the 
> > > computer you are trying to access remotely.
> > > 
> > > The VNC viewer is simply called VNC Viewer, and runs on 
> the viewing 
> > > computer.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 26 August 2005 16:09
> > > > To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > > > 
> > > > James:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks so much for the reply. Sorry, resetting the system
> > did mean
> > > > shutting down the VNC server side  from a user account and
> > > restarting
> > > > it. Not to confuse the situation I am actually running both
> > > the server
> > > 
> > > > and client (from time to time) but it is the user-mode
> > > (client?)  I am
> > > 
> > > > having the problem with.
> > > > 
> > > > At the remote PC (VNC server side) VNC is shut down, then
> > restarted.
> > > > Either manually by someone in that location or via the
> > service-mode
> > > > (which always works). Once it is back up again there is 
> no blank 
> > > > screen problem (user mode) on the local side until the user
> > > closes the
> > > 
> > > > session via the firewall . Then if they try to
> > reestablish a proper
> > > > connection occurs but a blank screen ensues  via the firewall.
> > > > Connecting directly
> > > > without the firewall the connection establishes perfectly
> > > every time. 
> > > > 
> > > > Let me go off in a different direction: What firewall
> > configuration
> > > > ports need to be open, and what packet size should be 
> used? What 
> > > > settings on the client side interact with firewall if any.
> > > Is there a
> > > > timer on ports for firewall?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards - Pat
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:53 AM
> > > > To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > > > 
> > > > Pat,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm afraid I can't really understand the description of
> > the problem
> > > > that you provide here.  You refer to resetting the
> > system, but then
> > > > describe shutting down a User-Mode VNC Server and
> > restarting it, as
> > > > far as I can tell.  Which do you actually mean?  Are you really 
> > > > running VNC Server in User-Mode, or in Service-Mode?  I
> > also don't
> > > > understand "After that time period however, all you get
> > is a blank
> > > > screen, if you shut down the local PC and try to
> > establish another
> > > > session, until you reset the remote server end again. " 
> > at all - if
> > > > you've shut down the PC then it is off and will not respond to 
> > > > connection attempts at all.
> > > > 
> > > > Can you explain further?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 18 August 2005 18:31
> > > > > To: Boland Pat-A19945; James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Blank Screen Problem
> > > > > 
> > > > > James:
> > > > >       I tried loading different releases of VNC on
> > both the remote
> > > > server
> > > > > side and the local PC, I have shut off fast user
> > > switching nothing
> > > > > helps this blank screen problem.  When the system is
> > reset at the
> > > > > remote server side (shut down VNC server application
> > and bring up
> > > > > again) the full screen appears and remains up for as long
> > > > as the local
> > > > 
> > > > > server has an established session.  If the local session is
> > > > shutdown
> > > > > within 5 maybe 10 minutes of the reset, you will not see
> > > that blank
> > > > > screen.  After that time period however, all you get 
> is a blank 
> > > > > screen, if you shut down the local PC and try to
> > > establish another
> > > > > session, until you reset the remote server end again.
> > > > > 
> > > > >       Help; Thanks - Pat
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Boland Pat-A19945
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:09 PM
> > > > > To: 'James Weatherall'; [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: RE: True color and extremely slow speed
> > > > > 
> > > > >  James:
> > > > >       I get the frame (boarder) where the remote
> > server is suppose to
> > > > > appear, but instead of the remote PC blue screen and
> > > icons - or any
> > > > > application that would be running, I get "black" which I
> > > call blank
> > > > > inside the viewer window. I hope that answers your question.
> > > > >       Regards - Pat
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:12 PM
> > > > > To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: RE: True color and extremely slow speed
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pat,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can you explain what you mean by "blank screen"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: 09 August 2005 17:27
> > > > > > To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: True color and extremely slow speed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > James:
> > > > > >     Yes, I wondered if that went anywhere. Attached
> > > is the email I
> > > > > > originally sent. I don't know if Fast user switching
> > is on.  I
> > > > > > originally thought it was a VNC option, which I did not see.
> > > > > > I'll look
> > > > > > at it on the server.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >     Thanks for responding to me.  -Pat
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:14 AM
> > > > > > To: Boland Pat-A19945; [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: True color and extremely slow speed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Pat,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm afraid I can't find any record of you having asked this
> > > > > question
> > > > > > before, in our archives.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can you explain what you mean by "blank screen"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are you using Fast User Switching and/or Remote Desktop
> > > on the XP
> > > > > > machine that is running server?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Boland Pat-A19945 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: 09 August 2005 17:04
> > > > > > > To: James Weatherall; John Mao; [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: True color and extremely slow speed
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > James:
> > > > > > >   I've asked this question before, but still have
> > > > this lingering
> > > > > > > problem. I am running VNC on and XP server.  When I
> > > > bring up the
> > > > > > > viewer on either an XP desktop or Win2000 desktop I
> > > get a blank
> > > > > > > screen.
> > > > > > > The connection goes through, but I just get a blank
> > screen.  
> > > > > > > When I shut
> > > > > > > down the VNC server side and bring it up again, it works
> > > > > fine, but
> > > > > > > once I close the session, I can be assured of a blank
> > > > > screen on the
> > > > > > > next desktop connection.  I would leave it on all the time
> > > > > > but other
> > > > > > > desktops have to use it as well.  Since the server is 2000
> > > > > > miles away
> > > > > > > shutting down and restarting the server side is not a
> > > good work
> > > > > > > around.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Thanks - Pat Boland
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