Unfortunately, it is true. LookOut...err.... Outlook does NOT do quoting "properly," i.e. according to netiquette. If you can figure out how to get Outlook 2000 to do quoting properly, I'll be HAPPY to do netiquette-compliant quoting. Please note that OL2K and OLE are two VERY different critters!
-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Fromm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:44 AM To: John Aldrich; 'Jaroslaw Rafa'; [email protected] Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all > Actually, Microsoft makes it VERY difficult to do "netiquette-compliant" > replies by not marking the quoted material as quoted the way most other > mail > clients do it. And, since I'm here as a *volunteer* helping out when/where > I Is that true? There's no way to change the settings on that? It's not that I disbelieve you, it's that my experience with Outlook is the same, and I was wondering if there's a way to force it to quote the classic way. (I'm typing in Outlook Express, and it seems to do it. Well, sometimes. :-) ) > can, I will reply in the manner which requires the least amount of effort. > Sorry, I get paid to do other things. I help out here because I've > received > a lot of help and want to give back. You got a problem with that, take it > up > with Wez at RealVNC. He's the de-facto list admin here. If he asks me to > go > away, I'll do so and only post here for questions. Of course, the exhortation should be "please don't top post if you can avoid doing so without unreasonable inconvenience." Cheers, S > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jaroslaw Rafa > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all > > > Agent Smith napisal(a): > [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] >> I actually like having the new messages on the top. >> When I am following a discussion I do not have to >> scroll through the quoted text to find the new >> content. I also don't mind having the entire message >> quoted since I can easily look back on the discussion > > It is like having such a conversation: > > Answer: Because you have to read backwards. > Question: Why is it inconvenient? > Answer: Replying at the top of the message. > Question: What is a problem then? > Answer: No. > Question: Is everything OK with mailing lists? > > Does it make sense? For me not. I prefer reading from top to bottom, not > from bottom to top. I read an answer at the top and I don't know the > question! (Actually, on this mailing list, I often get the replies before > the messages that are replied to, and in such case having to read the > message from bottom to top to find out what's going on is really > annoying.) > I have to scroll down through the entire message (untrimmed! - and that's > even worse than quoting at the top) to find the part somebody is referring > to. > E-mail, and especially a mailing list, is more like a live conversation, > where question comes before the answer, rather than a formal business > letter, where you attach the documents you are referring to at the end. I > prefer to read this conversation like I'd be reading a dialogue in the > book, > and not the reverse way. > Read the links I have posted previously - they will give you tons of > arguments, why classical style of quoting is better. > > In my opinion, nobody would ever think of this "backwards" style of > quoting > - because it's illogical - if Microsoft didn't put the cursor at the top > of > the message in Outlook. Maybe they did it just accidentally, they didn't > care whether the cursor is at top or at botom, and people took it for > granted and started all typing there instead of going to the end of the > message first... > Regards, > Jaroslaw Rafa > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Spam, wirusy, spyware... masz do6f? Jest alternatywa! > http://www.firefox.pl/ --- http://www.thunderbird.pl/ > Szybciej. #atwiej. Bezpieczniej. Internet tak jak lubisz. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > [email protected] > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > [email protected] > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list [email protected] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
