Gracias por la ayuda, les agradeceria me apoyaran con unos nuevos n0
telefonos en los cuales no puedo tener acceso por el vnc, los numeros son
los siguiente ;  300707     630604, desde ya muchas gracias ...

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>   1. Xvnc hangs on solaris ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   2. Unable to connect across Internet (Adam Stuart)
>   3. RE: Unable to connect across Internet (John Aldrich)
>   4. Re: Netiquette request to all (Jaroslaw Rafa)
>   5. command line ? (beau)
>   6. Re: Can't connect using DynDNS (Scott C. Best)
>   7. Re: Can't connect using DynDNS (Steven D. Clark)
>   8. Re: Can't connect using DynDNS (Steven D. Clark)
>   9. Re: Netiquette request to all (Agent Smith)
> 10. VNC server behind cable modem (John Hagens)
> 11. Re: Netiquette request to all (Jaroslaw Rafa)
> 12. Can we disable VNC on the tray (Shiju Jacob)
> 13. Re: I was hacked by a VNC user! (Stephen Fromm)
> 14. RE: I was hacked by a VNC user! (James Weatherall)
> 15. Re: Netiquette request to all (Felix E. Klee)
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> Message: 1
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Xvnc hangs on solaris
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:43:24 +0100
>
> Hello,
>
> We are operating XVnc on Sun Solaris (64 bits env) and we use these
> commands to start the service:
>
> xrdb /usr/dt/config/C/Xresources
> xsetroot -solid grey
> xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
> twm &
>
> The solution works perfectly but sometimes we are experiencing a strange
> problem. I mean the service works perfectly for a month or two then issue
> appear:
>
> Clients can not connect to xserver sometimes and they receive this error:
>
> X connection to prodbox:13.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
>
> I checked processes but all of them look up and running so there is no
> died process. We tried to turn it to audit mode so we can analyze the log
> file. In the case of issue we can see that server does not accept new
> connections but existing connections are working fine:
>
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 08:37:46 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 30 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 08:39:01 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 30 connected from IP
> 192.168.120.2 port 62773
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 08:39:05 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 30 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 08:39:31 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 30 connected from IP
> 192.168.120.2 port 62849
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 08:39:38 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 30 disconnected
>
> When the server looks freezed then it looks like this:
>
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:35:10 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 connected from IP
> 192.168.120.2 port 47060
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:35:10 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:39:34 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:39:34 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 35 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:39:34 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 36 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:43:41 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:43:41 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 35 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:47:35 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:47:35 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 35 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:47:35 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 36 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:48:48 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:48:48 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 35 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:49:16 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 36 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:49:16 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 37 disconnected
> AUDIT: Tue Jan 31 15:49:49 2006: 11413 Xvnc: client 34 disconnected
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sandor
>
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>
> Message: 2
> From: "Adam Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Unable to connect across Internet
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:27:03 -0500
>
> Hi:
>
> I am running 15 computers behind a firewall. All computers are Win XP and
> the
> office is connected via ethernet cable, with DSL as our connection. I
> installed VNC, set up a static IP address on all computers, and can view
> all
> office computers from any other without problems. I tried to connect to
> one of
> my office computers from my home. I installed a VNC viewer on my home
> office
> PC running Win XP and keep getting "connection timed out" errors. I am
> using
> the same static IP address which works while I am in the office, so why
> can't
> I connect across the Internet when the computers (Server and Viewer) are
> not
> physically connected?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Adam
>
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>
> Message: 3
> From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Adam Stuart'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Unable to connect across Internet
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:42:00 -0500
>
> Adam:
> To connect across the internet, you need to do two things:
> 1) Set up port forwarding in your router such that each machine you want
> to
> reach from outside has it's own unique port number for VNC which is
> forwarded to that machine from the outside world.
>
> 2) The "LAN IP" (i.e. 192.168.x.y or 10.x.y.z, etc) address is not a
> "routeable" IP address. That IP does not travel over the internet. When it
> gets to your router, it is changed to the "real" IP of your router and
> that's the only IP that the rest of the world sees.
>
> So, for example, if your router's EXTERNAL / Real IP address is
> 123.231.213.111 (just to pick a number out of a hat) and you want to
> connect
> to a machine behind the router at 192.168.1.2, for example, you'd have to
> set your router to "forward" port 5900 to 192.168.1.2 from 123.231.213.111
> so that anything attempting to connect to 123.231.213.111 on port 5900
> would
> be sent to 192.168.1.2.
>
> Please see http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/133.html (FAQ about
> routers, VNC and port forwarding which explains it MUCH better and in MUCH
> mroe detail than I can go into here.) Also please see
> http://www.portforward.com for a bunch of good "how-to" documentation on a
> variety of popular router brands and models.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Adam Stuart
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Unable to connect across Internet
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I am running 15 computers behind a firewall. All computers are Win XP and
> the
> office is connected via ethernet cable, with DSL as our connection. I
> installed VNC, set up a static IP address on all computers, and can view
> all
> office computers from any other without problems. I tried to connect to
> one
> of
> my office computers from my home. I installed a VNC viewer on my home
> office
> PC running Win XP and keep getting "connection timed out" errors. I am
> using
> the same static IP address which works while I am in the office, so why
> can't
> I connect across the Internet when the computers (Server and Viewer) are
> not
> physically connected?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Adam
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> Message: 4
> From: Jaroslaw Rafa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:52:55 +0100 (MET)
>
> John Aldrich napisal(a):
> > Unfortunately, I'm stuck with M$ LookOut...err. Outlook for my mail
> client.
> > I can't help it. I'm afraid you're going to have to deal with some
> > Outlook-style quoting. I realize it's not "Compliant" with netiquette,
> but
> > that can't be helped. I'm guessing a lot of other people are in the same
>
> Actually, it's not a matter of email client, it's only a matter of
> behaviour. One can use proper, netiquette-compliant quoting even when
> using
> MS Outlook. Nothing prohibits you from moving the cursor when replying to
> a
> message from the top (where Outlook places it by default) to the bottom,
> and
> writing there, and from deleting unnecessary lines from quoted text.
> Myself, I was doing it all the time even when using Outlook - I was using
> it
> for a few years until Thunderbird came and kicked (in my opinion) Outlook
> completely out of business ;-).
> Regards,
>   Jaroslaw Rafa
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:02:06 -0600
> From: beau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: command line ?
>
> hi all i new to the group
> this is the line i use  "C:\Program Files\RealVNC\VNC4\winvnc4.exe"
> -noconsole -start
> is there a command i can use to to keep the message box from poping up
> that shows it has started thanks beau
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:17:30 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Can't connect using DynDNS
>
> Michael:
>
>        Heya. I think John's suggestion is a good one: some DynDNS
> clients monitor for a change in IP address *of the PC they're
> running on*, which doesn't help very much if the PC is behind a
> router. Activating a DynDNS client that's embedded in the router
> itself will be much more reliable (though possibly more expensive).
>
>        Alternatively, some EchoVNC users log into the free demo
> server and use that as a DynDNS equivalent. If you connect there
> as "charliebrown928", you can make EchoVNC connections to just
> "charliebrown928" from wherever.
>
> cheers,
> Scott
>
>
> > Wrong -- you CAN ping a dyndns address. What probably happened is your
> IP
> > address has changed and your DYNDNS account is out-of-date. That's
> happened
> > to me a couple times. Make sure you have a DYNDNS client of some sort
> > running on your network and make sure it's able to connect to update
> your
> > account with your current IP address. Some routers will actually have
> DYNDNS
> > support built-in. I, personally, don't trust that and run two other
> clients,
> > one for no-ip.info and one for ZoneEdit.com. That way, I'll *always*
> have at
> > least one valid account, so long as my DSL connection is up and running.
> :-)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Behalf Of Michael Murray
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Can't connect using DynDNS
> > >
> > > I just signed up for DynDNS so that I can have a static domain address
> > > for dynamic IP my ISP assigns me.  I have that set up correctly along
> > > with port forwarding from my router.  However, I recently found out
> > > that you can't ping a DynDNS address.  I also saw that if you can't
> > > ping, RealVNC won't connect.  What can I do?  Thanks.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Steven D. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Can't connect using DynDNS
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:01:28 -0700
>
> It is important to configure the DynDNS client so that it monitors the
> change in the router's WAN IP.
> The client I use (DynDNS Updater) has a radio control on the connections
> tab
> that should be set to "local area network" if the machine hosting the
> DynDNS
> client is behind a router.  Local IP address must then be specify under
> the
> IP Address tab.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't connect using DynDNS
>
>
> > Michael:
> >
> >  Heya. I think John's suggestion is a good one: some DynDNS
> > clients monitor for a change in IP address *of the PC they're running
> on*,
> > which doesn't help very much if the PC is behind a
> > router. Activating a DynDNS client that's embedded in the router
> > itself will be much more reliable (though possibly more expensive).
> >
> >  Alternatively, some EchoVNC users log into the free demo
> > server and use that as a DynDNS equivalent. If you connect there
> > as "charliebrown928", you can make EchoVNC connections to just
> > "charliebrown928" from wherever.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >> Wrong -- you CAN ping a dyndns address. What probably happened is your
> IP
> >> address has changed and your DYNDNS account is out-of-date. That's
> >> happened
> >> to me a couple times. Make sure you have a DYNDNS client of some sort
> >> running on your network and make sure it's able to connect to update
> your
> >> account with your current IP address. Some routers will actually have
> >> DYNDNS
> >> support built-in. I, personally, don't trust that and run two other
> >> clients,
> >> one for no-ip.info and one for ZoneEdit.com. That way, I'll *always*
> have
> >> at
> >> least one valid account, so long as my DSL connection is up and
> running.
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]On
> >> > Behalf Of Michael Murray
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM
> >> > To: [email protected]
> >> > Subject: Can't connect using DynDNS
> >> >
> >> > I just signed up for DynDNS so that I can have a static domain
> address
> >> > for dynamic IP my ISP assigns me.  I have that set up correctly along
> >> > with port forwarding from my router.  However, I recently found out
> >> > that you can't ping a DynDNS address.  I also saw that if you can't
> >> > ping, RealVNC won't connect.  What can I do?  Thanks.
> > _______________________________________________
> > VNC-List mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > To remove yourself from the list visit:
> > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
>
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>
> Message: 8
> From: "Steven D. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Can't connect using DynDNS
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:12:56 -0700
>
> one more note: VNC CAN connect even if the router doesn't reply to a ping.
> All that is necessary is that the DynDNS name gets translated to your
> router's external IP address and the router forwards the connection
> request
> to the PC running VNC server.
>
> Example:  <myname>.homeip.net is updated by my DynDNS client translate to
> the external IP address of my router.
>
> If I try to ping <myname>.homeip.net from a machine outside my LAN, the
> name
> is translated to the IP address assigned by my ISP, but my router is
> configured to NOT respond.
>
> My VNC Viewer has no trouble connecting to <myname>.homeip.net because
> port
> 5900 is forwarded to my machine running VNC Server.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't connect using DynDNS
>
>
> > Michael:
> >
> >  Heya. I think John's suggestion is a good one: some DynDNS
> > clients monitor for a change in IP address *of the PC they're running
> on*,
> > which doesn't help very much if the PC is behind a
> > router. Activating a DynDNS client that's embedded in the router
> > itself will be much more reliable (though possibly more expensive).
> >
> >  Alternatively, some EchoVNC users log into the free demo
> > server and use that as a DynDNS equivalent. If you connect there
> > as "charliebrown928", you can make EchoVNC connections to just
> > "charliebrown928" from wherever.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >> Wrong -- you CAN ping a dyndns address. What probably happened is your
> IP
> >> address has changed and your DYNDNS account is out-of-date. That's
> >> happened
> >> to me a couple times. Make sure you have a DYNDNS client of some sort
> >> running on your network and make sure it's able to connect to update
> your
> >> account with your current IP address. Some routers will actually have
> >> DYNDNS
> >> support built-in. I, personally, don't trust that and run two other
> >> clients,
> >> one for no-ip.info and one for ZoneEdit.com. That way, I'll *always*
> have
> >> at
> >> least one valid account, so long as my DSL connection is up and
> running.
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]On
> >> > Behalf Of Michael Murray
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM
> >> > To: [email protected]
> >> > Subject: Can't connect using DynDNS
> >> >
> >> > I just signed up for DynDNS so that I can have a static domain
> address
> >> > for dynamic IP my ISP assigns me.  I have that set up correctly along
> >> > with port forwarding from my router.  However, I recently found out
> >> > that you can't ping a DynDNS address.  I also saw that if you can't
> >> > ping, RealVNC won't connect.  What can I do?  Thanks.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 18:02:16 -0800 (PST)
> From: Agent Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all
> To: [email protected]
>
> I actually like having the new messages on the top.
> When I am following a discussion I do not have to
> scroll through the quoted text to find the new
> content. I also don't mind having the entire message
> quoted since I can easily look back on the discussion
> and see what has been said. When giving help it's
> important to have the previous comments so you know
> what's been said and to not repeat information.
>
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> Message: 10
> From: "John Hagens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:37:43 +0800
> Subject: VNC server behind cable modem
>
> I have a cable modem and set up a RealVNC server on a only computer
> connected to the cable modem and there is no router. I am trying to access
> my computer from outside by using my internet IP address., this does not
> work however and I always receive error message, I cannot ping to the IP
> address also.., is there any way I can get around this problem..I have
tried
> all the available help..I will be happy for any suggestions/help...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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>
> Message: 11
> From: Jaroslaw Rafa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:56:13 +0100 (MET)
>
> Agent Smith napisal(a):
> [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> > I actually like having the new messages on the top.
> > When I am following a discussion I do not have to
> > scroll through the quoted text to find the new
> > content. I also don't mind having the entire message
> > quoted since I can easily look back on the discussion
>
> It is like having such a conversation:
>
> Answer: Because you have to read backwards.
> Question: Why is it inconvenient?
> Answer: Replying at the top of the message.
> Question: What is a problem then?
> Answer: No.
> Question: Is everything OK with mailing lists?
>
> Does it make sense? For me not. I prefer reading from top to bottom, not
> from bottom to top. I read an answer at the top and I don't know the
> question! (Actually, on this mailing list, I often get the replies before
> the messages that are replied to, and in such case having to read the
> message from bottom to top to find out what's going on is really
> annoying.)
> I have to scroll down through the entire message (untrimmed! - and that's
> even worse than quoting at the top) to find the part somebody is referring
> to.
> E-mail, and especially a mailing list, is more like a live conversation,
> where question comes before the answer, rather than a formal business
> letter, where you attach the documents you are referring to at the end. I
> prefer to read this conversation like I'd be reading a dialogue in the
> book,
> and not the reverse way.
> Read the links I have posted previously - they will give you tons of
> arguments, why classical style of quoting is better.
>
> In my opinion, nobody would ever think of this "backwards" style of
> quoting
> - because it's illogical - if Microsoft didn't put the cursor at the top
> of
> the message in Outlook. Maybe they did it just accidentally, they didn't
> care whether the cursor is at top or at botom, and people took it for
> granted and started all typing there instead of going to the end of the
> message first...
> Regards,
>   Jaroslaw Rafa
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> Spam, wirusy, spyware... masz do6f? Jest alternatywa!
> http://www.firefox.pl/   ---   http://www.thunderbird.pl/
> Szybciej. #atwiej. Bezpieczniej. Internet tak jak lubisz.
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Shiju Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Can we disable VNC on the tray
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:41:50 +0530
> Organization: Ccubed India
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
>    I have installed VNC Server on my machine and now everything is working
> fine
>
> Now I need that the icon of the VNC which should not shown on the tray but
> everyone should login to the system using vnc viewer
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Shiju Jacob
>
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>
> Message: 13
> From: "Stephen Fromm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: I was hacked by a VNC user!
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:32:13 -0500
>
> > We don't advise use of VNC Free Edition across the Internet except via
> > some
> > sort of secure tunnelling protocol.  VNC Enterprise & Personal Editions
> > have
> > in-built session security for this purpose.  All current VNC Server
> > releases
> > also support querying the local user to accept connections, which is
> > advisable if you are concerned that the password you are using is weak
> or
> > widely known.
>
> But if I don't type any passwords, etc, once my connection is established,
> what does the additional protection actually afford me?  (Meaning, again,
> if
> the datastream itself doesn't need to be protected, but only the password
> and ability to connect to the server.)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> SJF
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Stephen Fromm'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: I was hacked by a VNC user!
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:44:55 -0000
> Organization: RealVNC Ltd.
>
> Stephen,
>
> There's more to session security than simply visibility of key-presses to
> nosey network neighbours.  Without proper tanper-proofing, for example,
> it's
> possible for an attacker to gain access to a system by listening in on an
> established session & hi-jacking it.
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Fromm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 10 February 2006 11:32
> > To: James Weatherall; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: I was hacked by a VNC user!
> >
> > > We don't advise use of VNC Free Edition across the Internet
> > except via
> > > some
> > > sort of secure tunnelling protocol.  VNC Enterprise &
> > Personal Editions
> > > have
> > > in-built session security for this purpose.  All current VNC Server
> > > releases
> > > also support querying the local user to accept connections, which is
> > > advisable if you are concerned that the password you are
> > using is weak or
> > > widely known.
> >
> > But if I don't type any passwords, etc, once my connection is
> > established,
> > what does the additional protection actually afford me?
> > (Meaning, again, if
> > the datastream itself doesn't need to be protected, but only
> > the password
> > and ability to connect to the server.)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > SJF
>
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>
> Message: 15
> From: "Felix E. Klee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Netiquette request to all
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:52:48 +0100
>
> Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 03:02 schrieb Agent Smith:
> > When I am following a discussion I do not have to
> > scroll through the quoted text to find the new
> > content.
>
> That's only an issue when people quote more than they have to.  Good
> quoting
> guidelines:
>
> 1. Place your replies directly below the text that you're referring to.
>
> 2. Quote only that which is necessary - keep quotes short, and abbreviate
> them
> (e.g. using [...]) if necessary.
>
> Personally, most of the time, I don't even bother to read discussions
> where
> people use top-quoting.  It's a waste of time, since often it's very hard
> to
> guess to what text passages the author of a posting is referring
> to.  Sure,
> he could include references to those in his message, but with good quoting
> he
> doesn't have to.
>
> --
> Dipl.-Phys. Felix E. Klee
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