Probably all very true, Malcolm, but which of us wants to pay for a lawyer 
to tell Microsoft's lawyers and a judge that it's all a pile of crap? 
Unfortunately, if they decide to make an example of someone you become toast!

It happens all the time with non-compete contracts which have often been 
judged to constitute slavery. Companies still require them and people still 
sign them and once in a while someone becomes toast.

Lee



At 03:17 PM 12/12/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Ah but if you are using VNC remotely then by definition you can't be using
>XP localy ..
>As NT is single user only (Terminal services is a software add on...)
>And therfore the Workstation Licence is transferable to the VNC client
>
>So you don't need to worry about it..
>
>Also under English Law licences like that are considered a pile of crap...
>(and not legaly binding)
>just like those stupid 'If you open this envelope you except the terms and
>conditions inside...'
>It's called entrapment.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Malcolm.
>
>Malcolm Turnbull
>IT Manager
>Crocus.co.uk
>01344 629661
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:01 PM
>Subject: RE: Timeout Problem with XP - illegal??
>
>
> > Nope, that doesn't work.  They say "use, access, display, or run".  Note
>the
> > "or".  I think you'd have a hard time arguing that VNC doesn't display
> > software.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Piotr Zielenkiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Timeout Problem with XP - illegal??
> >
> >
> > >   "Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance,
> > >    and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the
> > >    Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
> > >    executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may
> > >    you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product
> > >    or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate
> > >    license for the Product." (from: Microsoft Windows XP Pro EULA)
> > >
> >
> > I've found a way to interpret it to make VNC legal. You are not  running
> > the another copy of product, you are only sending images, mouse motion and
> > keypresses over network.l
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