Yes, understood. However, most ports today do not qualify under these conditions. Accounts are often wholesale, so it’s not a single line. Some LECs now throw in extra services that the end-user may not even know about, such as a toll-free number, so that it’s not a “single line only” account. Many ILECs now will not sell a single-line only at retail; they force a bundle of some kind sometimes without the end user’s knowledge. AT&T Bellsouth is a master of this, pricing their single line at over 90.00/mo, well above the cost of the bundle that includes that line.
All of those tactics combine to mean that very few ports are actually simple anymore from an intercarrier perspective. Regards, Mike Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE Astro Companies, LLC 11523 Palm Brush Trail #401 Lakewood Ranch, FL 34202 DIRECT: 941 600-0207 http://www.astrocompanies.com From: Frank Bulk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:07 AM To: 'Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE'; 'Colton Conor' Cc: 'Voiceops.org' Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Fast LNP Porting The FCC’s current definition for a Simple Ports is as follows: * Do not involve unbundled network elements * Involves an account only for a single line * Do not include complex switch translations (e.g., Centrex, ISDN, AIN services, remote call forwarding, or multiple services on the loop) * Do not include a reseller Regards, Frank From: Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:26 AM To: 'Frank Bulk'; 'Colton Conor' Cc: 'Voiceops.org' Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Fast LNP Porting We are directly connected to the NPAC and do all of our own native porting in house as well as porting for others. It’s important to note that virtually all non-wireless carriers these days have various excuses for why no port is ever simple anymore, to get around the one-day porting rule. It used to be, a single number porting made it a simple port. Not true anymore; you can pretty much count on any non-wireless port being considered complex from an LNP perspective. We can generally still get it done in 3 to 5 business days, but you have to be very organized and know what the specific requirements of each carrier are before you submit the order to them. Mike Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE Astro Companies, LLC 11523 Palm Brush Trail #401 Lakewood Ranch, FL 34202 DIRECT: 941 600-0207 http://www.astrocompanies.com From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:57 AM To: 'Calvin Ellison'; Colton Conor Cc: Voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Fast LNP Porting Also want to note the simple versus complex port aspect, too. https://www.npac.com/number-portability/how-lnp-works “Even providers who use manual processes, if there are no errors or issues with validations, and it is a simple port, the FCC has mandated that the request be completed within one business day.” Frank From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Calvin Ellison Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:34 AM To: Colton Conor Cc: Voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Fast LNP Porting Porting requires concurrence from the losing carrier to complete, which ultimately happens as an LRN update in the NPAC. Companies with direct access to NPAC can do this the quickest, otherwise they contract with an AOCN to handle the NPAC or use a bigger carrier, which can add delays. So long as you have the correct LSR information when submitting the port, concurrence should happen within a day. Ultimately the losing and gaining carriers both contribute to the turnaround time. Check out our wholesale services. We can do porting for voice, toll free and SMS. On Jun 15, 2015 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Is there some way to port numbers extremely fast away from major landline providers like Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, etc? I met someone long ago that said they were able to port a number from anywhere in like one business day. If I remember right they mentioned something about being a cellular CLEC or something similar. I know porting in the cellular world is a same day kind of thing, but why not on the landline side? Is there some wholesaler out there that doesn't charge and arm and leg to port numbers? _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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