It’s hard to get a layman-customer to understand such issues… packetization, 
UDP, TCP, fraud, etc., might as well be speaking another unknown dialect.  😊

They do say it seems happen the most on calls terminating on Jamaican cells.  
I’ve seen some conspiracy theories that it’s an issue with an NSA node, where 
they’re listening to the calls.
I’m personally more of the mindset it’s some questionable ULC in the path that 
needs to be removed.

Mark


From: mgraves mstvp.com <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 2:22 PM
To: Mark Wiles <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: International call "looping" post-call?

Mark –

We’ve had that very experience reported by conference call participants 
connecting from Jamaica. Further, if the call stays up a long while, as is 
common with a con call, the looped audio may repeat periodically. Crazy stuff.

Michael Graves
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From: VoiceOps 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
Of Mark Wiles
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [VoiceOps] International call "looping" post-call?

A customer came to me with a somewhat strange problem.

He reports they’ll be on a phone call to Jamaica (or other World Zone 1 / 
International destination).
The called party will end the call… and he’ll report hearing the last 15-30’ish 
seconds of the conversation “looped”.

It almost sounds like someone’s maybe doing TCP on the RTP, and something 
screwy going on with the packetization.

Anyone else heard of this or have a theory?

Thanks!

Mark




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