The metaswitch way is that it will do it automatically for you if it thinks 
you're behind a NAT. So if you force nat, it will do the fast registration 
automatically. It's one line of config on the sip adjacency for the MaxUC 
application.

> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Matthew Crocker <matt...@corp.crocker.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> The acme/oracle way of doing Hosted NAT Traversal is to set the expire time 
> down to 30 seconds and have the phones REGISTER every 30 seconds.   The SBC 
> eats the registration so it doesn’t overload the switch.   If the CGN NAT 
> drops the entry it gets recreated with the new registration in 30 seconds.
>  
> We have had very good results with the acme/oracle approach
>  
> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org 
> <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org>> on behalf of Pete Mundy 
> <p...@mac.geek.nz <mailto:p...@mac.geek.nz>>
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 5:11 PM
> To: VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] "Timeout" on VoIP call traversing Verizon data
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> Precisely. And those "NAT table entries" eventually time out. On CG-NAT they 
> often time out aggressively; <60 seconds. Hence sending OPTIONS over SIP over 
> UDP regularly keeps the NAT table entries refreshed and active and therefore 
> the UDP 'connection' open. I've come across firewalls with 30 second 
> timeouts, so we use 25 second keepalives (OPTIONS).
> 
> Pete
> 
> >> On 11/06/2021, at 8:24 AM, Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com 
> >> <mailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not to muddy the waters here with needless pedantry, but:
> >>
> >> While UDP may be "connectionless", the only way UDP, and in particular, 
> >> symmetric SIP signalling, can work through NAT is if a stateful firewall + 
> >> NAT gateway has some awareness (that is, state) of UDP "flows", or groups 
> >> of packets flowing between ports consistently in some kind of temporary 
> >> logical association--one might say, the endpoints have a "connection" of 
> >> sorts...
> >>
> >> -- Alex
> >>
> > On 6/10/21 4:07 PM, Peter Beckman wrote:
> > uhhhh.... SIP here is UDP, no?
> > There's no connection to close for UDP.
> > The source port for UDP doesn't matter. It's not part of the whole
> > conversation, unless your switch cares that all communications continue to
> > come from the source port. It's connectionless.
> > TCP 5060 isn't even listening on our switches.
> > So, maybe you're doing SIP over TCP?
> > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Mark Wiles wrote:
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