At the suggestion of this mailing list, I started pursuing the IVP/IPES route 
instead of trying to do my expansions via CLEC authority. 


I've had conversations with a few companies to enable the IPES services, 
Verizon, Inteliquent, Intrado (West), and Peerless. I haven't talked to Wide 
Voice because their stated coverage is inadequate. I haven't talked to Level 3 
because they never answered me. 




    * One of the conversations went nowhere because while they knew what I was 
talking about, they didn't think they had a product for that. Their rates for 
adjacent services were actually reasonable. 
    * One had it productized, but had a 5 figure minimum monthly commit. The 
stated reason was that the LECs are a pain and they wanted to make sure they 
had a decent return before they committed resources. 
    * One had only part of the solution, still requiring me to build out the 
tandems myself for the ILEC interconnection. 
    * One had it productized and had no monthly minimum. 


Okay, so four very different responses from four companies. The one seems like 
the a slam dunk, but being a slam drunk in the face of such difficulty, I 
become skeptical. We're coming from a TDM, voice CLEC background, not a retail 
SIP provider background. Is there something I'm underestimating in this 
process? 









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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net> 
To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM 
Subject: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems 


I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left out company 
names. 


One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in getting us the 
inbound long distance calls, not the local ones. Well, they would, but the 
terms were vastly different. 


Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem, what's the 
point in using a third party to connect to long distance? 


Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because the access 
tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could potentially involve 
connections to a bunch of other switches, once volume dictated I needed direct 
connections... and they don't want to deal with that? 


Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for local tandem 
services? 


Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I went circles 
with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he was saying, but I could be 
wrong. 





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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 



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