As long as they could reach the NPAC, they could port. Everything else is just 
formalities and details that are technically optional.

From: Aryn Nakaoka 808.356.2901 <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Paul Timmins <[email protected]>
Cc: Alex Balashov <[email protected]>; VoiceOps <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] thinQ is making hay while Bandwidth is down

If there is a DDOS like the one that is happening to Bandwidth, would Thinq 
even be able to port "internally"?

Knowing Thinq uses Bandwidth and Inteliquent... Bandwidth said porting was 
disabled during the DDOS, so how would Thinq get them to port to Inteliquent 
(assuming the same coverage / cost)?

Our ports take 9 working days, the losing carriers have days to respond.

Thanks,
Aryn



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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 6:35 PM Paul Timmins 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There is literally no TECHNICAL reason they can't. I've helped out other local 
carriers with some problems where we took over numbers in less than 10 minutes 
between wireline carriers and just set up forwarding for their customers til 
the outage was resolved. I moved 200 of my own numbers from another local 
carrier to my own network with 5 minutes notice coordinating the port over ICQ 
back when that was a thing. It's been possible for years, people just don't 
often do it.

If both carriers log into LTI at the same time and build the subscription and 
the matching release, the number can be ported instantly. I pulled an old cell 
phone like that by logging into syniverse, submitting a WLSR to Sprint, and 
immediately built the subscription, they immediately matched it electronically, 
and I clicked activate and the number was on me, bam.

The real issue is getting the losing carrier to remove the routes (or setting 
TAT triggers that do an LNP dip before terminating so the calls route correctly 
the second they're updated in NPAC) and if that is done, then you're good to 
go. If I was a company like thinq, I'd work with my partner carriers to let me 
move my numbers around between them quickly in a similar fashion to create a 
real differentiated product.

-Paul

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> No, nobody can “flash-port” numbers to a different LRN like that. Anyone who 
> claims this has a bridge to sell you.
>
> This capability is indeed limited to SMS/800.
>
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:47 PM, Carlos Alvarez 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> It would be interesting if they could do DID re-routing quickly
>
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