On Tue, 14 Mar 2023, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps wrote:

On Mar 14, 2023 at 2:03:17 PM, Peter Beckman <[email protected]> wrote:


We've also put numbers into production that our carrier provided, only to
find out they should not have been in their inventory at all.


I’ve learned this lesson, hence the test calls.  But this is a new one on
me; how often should we have to test all of our numbers??

 Should you HAVE to? Never. How often do you NEED to, so you can avoid
 situations like this? Once every 2 weeks in my estimation, unfortunately.

 I tried to find an affordable way to ensure that the ILEC/CLEC/Resporg of
 one of our numbers had not changed, but I couldn't find one. I also found
 that if the number moved internally, e.g. one Bandwidth customer to
 another, I'd never detect it. Test Calls and SMS messages seemed to be the
 most deterministic indicator.

 I will commend and recommend Alcazar Networks for offering a very
 reliable, though about 24 hours out of date, LNP/LRN API at affordable
 rates. USD$0.00025 per extended query, or a flat rate for higher usage.

 https://www.alcazarnetworks.com/data_services_lnp_lrn.php

 Anyone know of a RespOrg API that would tell us information about a TF
 number?

That’s uglier than a Pontiac Aztek.

 But reliably detects carrier failures.

I just hope thinQ can handle this.  Looking at our call records vs their
TF number history, it’s clear when it was ours, then taken, then given
out again.  I believe someone else on the list suggested that previous
ownership is superior to current ownership?  If it comes down to that,
anyone know the process to enforce it?

 The challenge here is what is ownership?

 Really, nobody owns a phone number. NANPA leases it to carriers, and
 carriers lease it to companies or individuals. It is up to the carrier to
 lease it to only one entity. Thinq failed to do so. IMHO Thinq should be
 working their butts off to fix this for you.

 I do not know of an FCC rule that would help you scare Thinq into doing
 the right thing and fixing this.

Beckman
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Peter Beckman                                                  Internet Guy
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