Posted by Einer Elhauge, guest-blogging:
Response to Professors Tribe and Balkin.   
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_05_20-2007_05_26.shtml#1179978167


   Well, my little piece on the death of doctrinalism (see below) seems
   to have excited a bit of attention over at [1]Balkanization, drawing
   responses from my good friends (and even better scholars) Professors
   Tribe and Balkin. A few words in response:

   I think the main problem is definitional. I do not think Professors
   Tribe and Balkin would deny that Harvard and Yale often reject some
   scholars as �too doctrinal.� But, as I took pains to stress in my
   posting, this claim does not include people who take doctrine
   seriously, so the question is what we mean by �doctrinal� work. To
   avoid an I-know-it-when-I-see-it type test, I offered a specific
   definition.

   Professor Tribe objects that my �description of �doctrinalism� is so
   narrow that it definitionally excludes most of the best doctrinal work
   I've encountered in the past several decades.� Well now, given my
   definition, I cannot be excluding �doctrinal� work; I am excluding
   something else. This objection is a little like objecting to a claim
   that short people (defined as less than 5'6" tall) have a very hard
   time making it in the NBA on the ground that some short 5'11' people
   are in the NBA.

   Professor Balkin objects that, given my definition, �there's very
   little scholarship these days that is doctrinalist.� Yes, that was my
   point � it is dead. Indeed, Professor Balkin confirms my point when he
   says that �legal scholarship that gets you a good job has to be
   interdisciplinary.� Precisely. His point is just that this work
   usually still takes doctrine seriously, with which I agree entirely,
   which is why I define �doctrinal� to exclude work that just does that,
   as well as to exclude work like that by Professors Tribe and Balkin,
   not to mention myself.

   Maybe you don�t like my particular definition of what is meant when
   scholarship is deemed �too doctrinal.� Fine, feel free to propose
   another. Really, feel free, I am not at all sure I have the best
   definition yet, so am more than glad to take nominees. But whatever
   plausible definition you come up with, I am confident it will remain
   true that it is harder to get hired as a doctrinal scholar now than it
   used to be, and that the proportion of doctrinalists is higher in
   constitutional law than in other fields.

   Professor Tribe also objects to my provocative little sidebar about
   �the oddity that the marquee legal subject, constitutional law, is
   also the least intellectually respected among law professors because
   it is the most doctrinal.� He offers three responses: �[1] its real
   world importance, [2] the high regard in which it is held in law
   school and university settings, and [3] its locus of much substantive
   intellectual accomplishment.� But points 1 and 2 simply confirm my
   point that, like it or not, constitutional law is the marquee legal
   subject. Point 3 confuses the ordinal with the absolute. There is no
   inconsistency between the claim that constitutional law scholarship is
   the least intellectually respected in today�s academy (because a
   higher proportion of it is doctrinal) and the fact that much of it has
   substantive intellectual accomplishment.

   After all, we outside of constitutional law like to think we have lots
   of work with substantive intellectual accomplishment too, thank you
   very much. It is all about the relative proportions. And I think the
   plain fact it is easier to publish a dull doctrinal constitutional law
   article than a dull doctrinal article about anything else. But really
   this was just a fun aside, not the main point, which was to warn
   aspiring scholars to avoid doctrinalism.

   Professor Tribe also complains that my list of the �dazzling dozen
   omits many scholars who are the most cited and most highly regarded.�
   Granted, but then again I was not offering a list of the top 12
   scholars. I was just offering a list of great interdisciplinary
   scholars I happened to know had no PhD. I could have named many more.

   Finally, Professor Tribe says �I'm inclined to conclude that Professor
   Elhauge's insights don't explain recent hiring patterns, at Harvard or
   elsewhere, and certainly nothing he says should discourage those with
   enough of what Einer describes as �raw talent and creativity� from
   pursuing their intellectual interests in law and legal thought
   wherever those interests lead them.� On the hiring patterns, I shall
   have more to say in tomorrow�s posts, but it is indisputably the case
   that entry level hiring has strongly favored JD/PhDs, and I think
   equally clear that under any plausible definition it has disfavored
   doctrinalists as well.

   I can only wholeheartedly agree with Professor Tribe that those with
   raw talent and creativity should not be dissuaded from pursuing their
   intellectual interests in law. The question is what the best strategy
   for pursuing those interests are, and I think it is pretty clear that
   if you do not have a JD/PhD, you should get a fellowship to make your
   work less doctrinal if you want to maximize your odds of getting a top
   job on the entry level market. Or failing that, learn how to do good
   interdisciplinary work elsewhere and then make a lateral move on the
   very hot laterals market, as I discuss in tomorrow�s post.

   And if you have a chance on the laterals market to hire Professors
   Tribe or Balkin, grab it.

References

   1. file://localhost/var/www/powerblogs/volokh/posts/Balkanization

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