Posted by Eric Posner:
Still more on the Obama signing statement, plus the power to detain.
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_03_08-2009_03_14.shtml#1237057093


   Ilya discusses Michael Stern's response to Strauss [1]here. I agree
   that Strauss puts too much faith in a fluff ball of legalese. Here�s
   an earlier [2]post from Ed Whelan that compares Obama�s statement with
   some of Bush�s. I also received a message from a former DOJ lawyer who
   says that Bush�s signing statements were no more scattershot than
   Clinton�s. In fact, I [3]found that Bush issued on average two signing
   statements a year that did not specify the offending sections; Clinton
   issued on average one such signing statement per year. In any event,
   not much of a difference.

   The larger point, which can be easily missed, is that the signing
   statement controversy, stirred up by then Boston Globe reporter
   Charlie Savage who was duly awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his efforts,
   always rested on misunderstanding and confusion. Signing statements
   have almost zero practical effect. Courts don�t care about them. If a
   former Bush administration official is ever hauled before court for
   torture, it will make absolutely no difference that Bush issued a
   signing statement that said a statute restricting torture will be
   interpreted so as not to interfere with the president�s commander in
   chief power. Whether such a statement existed or not, a court would
   consider the constitutional argument and either accept or reject it on
   the merits. Nor is it legally novel that a president might refuse to
   enforce a statute that he believes to be unconstitutional. Larry
   Tribe, to his credit, [4]chided Savage for insinuating in a �news�
   [5]article that only right-wing lunatics and rear-end-covering former
   Clinton executive branch lawyers could think otherwise. (Here is
   Savage�s walking-on-eggshells [6]report on the Obama statement.)

   The Bush administration did use the signing statement as a vehicle for
   advancing its views about presidential power. But its views about
   presidential power were formally the same as those of its
   predecessors�and as those of its successor, apparently. It did press
   those views farther in some respects�especially in the interrogation
   and wiretapping controversies�but it backed down in response to
   internal disagreement led by Jack Goldsmith. These (real)
   controversies about presidential power had virtually nothing to do
   with whether presidents should issue signing statements and how many
   statutes they should be permitted to challenge. It remains unclear
   whether Bush�s views on presidential power in the end were all that
   different from Clinton�s or, if they were, whether the differences
   would have had practical importance.

   *** A note on �substantial.� The Obama administration has �distanced�
   itself from the Bush administration by saying that it has power to
   detain people who �substantially supported� Taliban or al-Qaida forces
   rather than people who (merely) �supported� those forces, and by
   dropping the term �enemy combatant� (henceforth, the term shall be
   �detainee�) from the executive�s lexicon. Many media outlets fell for
   this one (a �break� with the Bush administration!, they proclaimed),
   though not the more sophisticated journalists working for the Times,
   the Journal, and the Post, who correctly [7]pointed out that change
   was cosmetic (hence the late Friday release).

References

   1. http://volokh.com/posts/1237046288.shtml
   2. 
http://bench.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzBkZWIxODY5YTA4ZGI1Y2I0YTk2ZWNjMGJiM2MzOTc=
   3. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=922400
   4. 
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/08/larry-tribe-on-aba-signing-statements.html
   5. 
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/08/05/group_opposes_loss_of_signing_statements/
   6. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/us/politics/12signing.html
   7. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/14/us/politics/14gitmo.html?hp

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