Posted by Richard Painter, guest-blogging:
Its just plain wrong:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_03_29-2009_04_04.shtml#1238305839


   My criticism of legal arguments justifying torture seems to have
   created much controversy this week. I recognize that citation to
   international law and the views of a former head of the Office of
   Legal Counsel does not conclusively establish the case against
   torture. Neither do the views of Senator John McCain, a man who
   experienced torture in Vietnam, nor the views of the Presiding Bishop
   of the Episcopal Church who wrote to Senator McCain.

   One commentator asks me to differentiate between prohibiting torture
   and prohibiting consumption of broccoli. In an earlier era, President
   George H. W. Bush might have found this analogy amusing because he
   publicly stated that he disliked it when his mother made him eat
   broccoli. In light of what has happened in recent years, the matter
   should be viewed more seriously.

   This is not an argument which a person wins by citing cases or finding
   ways in which the Constitution might conflict with treaty obligations
   the United States voluntarily entered into. This is a question of
   right and wrong, and there are certain things a civilized society does
   not do. Much of the work of an ethics lawyer, or any lawyer for that
   matter, is giving a client advice that amounts to common sense. The
   advice required on this question is that torturing prisoners is
   morally and legally wrong and that legal opinions seeking to justify
   torture will expose the United States to widespread international
   criticism and other adverse consequences. They did.

   Of course I bring my own moral views to this question. It would be
   difficult not to. There is admittedly a gray area when a lawyer
   believes something is clearly legal but also morally wrong. Advice
   given to a client may vary depending on the circumstances and the
   lawyer. When something is widely viewed as being both illegal and
   morally wrong, however, constructing an argument to the contrary is a
   disservice to the client, even if the client appears ready to
   entertain such an argument. The lawyer�s job is to say no.

   In an earlier post I expressed some reservations about legislating
   certain aspects of personal morality (sex, alcohol, etc.). I worry
   that having too much law can encourage disrespect for the law. I fail
   to see why this is a reason not to have a law against torture. Simply
   because we do not have a law against everything, must we live in a
   society without laws against anything?

   Finally, I did not take sides in any of my posts in the dispute
   currently afflicting the Episcopal Church. I did say that there are
   more important matters � such as the torture issue discussed in Bishop
   Griswold�s letter to John McCain -- than the personal life of the
   Bishop of New Hampshire. I hope that churches, and our government,
   will focus on these more pressing matters, of which there are many.

   I also don�t think anybody is interested in listening to Episcopalians
   argue about sex. When, however, an argument about sex spills over into
   an argument about money and real property, there is a subject about
   which passions truly run high. The resulting litigation over breakaway
   parishes, currently going on in Virginia and in many other states,
   involves Civil War era statutes on disposition of church property,
   trust law, canon law, church-state issues, corporate governance law
   and other fascinating questions. This litigation will entertain law
   professors and other bystanders, although I hope the Church does not
   bankrupt itself in the process.

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