Hi Bob,
you can upload to http://www.imgur.com

Cheers,
D.

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Bob Albert <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pete,
>
> The EI is in three parts connected by many massive cables.  When I say it's 
> pretty close, I mean it agrees with everything else I feel is close.  The 
> 3456A has a -12V reference which the EI measures at -12.0026 or so.  It uses 
> an oven so it takes a half hour to settle.  I have pics of the panel and 
> would post them if I knew how.
>
>
> The Valhalla is actually a good meter but one range has a small problem.  The 
> Racal-Dana is unfixable because I can't find a manual, short of spending more 
> than the meter is worth.  Those two units are very similar; the main 
> difference is 1) the Valhalla measures AC current and 2) the Dana has a very 
> sensitive DC microammeter such that I can measure diode leakage.
>
> I am befuddled by the HP3456A.  I have replaced some parts but so far it's 
> not doing its thing.  I have the manual but it sucks, not having a proper 
> schematic diagram nor a board trace layout.
>
> The Calib Stds unit is nice, a manually operated slideback DC volts only 
> unit, compact and easy to use.  Again, no manual available and, in fact, no 
> mention of the company anywhere online.  They were in Los Angeles area.
>
> The main reason I want to fix these is that I hate owning anything that 
> doesn't work.  And I like knowing my meters are accurate as well as precise.
>
> I also have some 10V reference ICs that have been around here a few years.  
> They all agree within a few mV.  I made a permanent reference out of them 
> with a switch to select each, and they are running whenever I am in the lab.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:31 PM, Pete Lancashire 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My take
>
> HP 3456A - Great meter. Manuals on the web. Has at least one HP custom
> device that is a problem,  other then salvaging from anohter 3456A is
> unobtanium. The most complex of your collection.
>
> Valhalla 4440. Other then for the fun of fixing stuff not worth anything.
>
> Racal Dana 4200 Don't know it
>
> EI 3000. I don't have a 3000 but do have a lower cost variant. At least to
> me a collectors item. You say "pretty close", pretty close to what ?  I
> believe it was EI that originated feedback in the Zener loop, finally
> getting rid of the chopper. If anything the reference by now should have
> settled down :-).
>
> Depending on your experience in repairing T&M, I'd use the Valhalla as a
> way to get some. Then get a manual for the 4200 and repair it. Finally dive
> into the 3456A.
>
> Love to see some inside pictures of the EI.
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Bob Albert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am the owner of a few fairly accurate and/or precise voltmeters and
>> would like some information if it's available.
>>
>>
>> First, my Electro Instruments model 3000 5-digit antique with Nixie tube
>> readout, and the accessory AC converter.  It hasn't been calibrated in
>> decades but seems pretty close.  I have no manual.
>>
>>
>> Second is the recently acquired, not working HP 3456A.  Struggling with
>> that repair.
>>
>> Third is the Valhalla 4440.  I have most of a manual but it differs
>> somewhat from mine.  Mine has an issue on one range of volts.
>>
>> Fourth is the Racal-Dana 4200.  This works fine but after it warms up for
>> a half hour starts to get erratic.
>>
>> Fifth is a Calibration Standards model DC-110A.  No manual.  It has some
>> trouble on range overlap.
>>
>> Can anyone help me with any of these units?  Documentation, reputation,
>> etc.  Photographs supplied if needed.
>>
>> Bob
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