Hi Chuck,

It is very interesting and unexpected. These displays were replaced for no 
other reason than they were difficult to read, and now this particular sample 
is just fine.

I have a couple more, I will try to cycle them through my prototype.

I know that I have had a number of clocks with VFDs that became unusable for 
the same reason over the years. This is the first time that I get one to 
restore itself.

Not sure how much of that would be useful with the 3548 display.

Didier KO4BB


On April 28, 2015 11:05:19 AM CDT, Chuck Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi Didier,
>
>That is most interesting!
>
>The architecture of the displays is such that there are multiple
>cathode wires, one over the top of each "row" of segments, usually.
>The cathodes are run dark, so they are barely emitting, and cannot
>really ever burn out.
>
>I have found the ugly looking displays are the result of the cathodic
>emission right under the wire being better than between the wires,
>rendering a mottled appearance.
>
>In some of the early clocks and alarm clocks, that used VFD's (since
>the US clocks are always in 12 hour display mode) if they were changed
>to 24 hour mode, after a long life, the "E" digits that make up the
>most significant digit were always much brighter than the rest of the
>digits on the display, rendering a "2" where the newly lit horizontal
>segments were brighter than the rest.
>
>In any case, I have some VFD's that have been in continuous use since
>I graduated from college, and that was a long, long, time ago.  And
>they are still going strong.
>
>I have to wonder about the failures in the 3458 display.  My instinct
>tells me that it isn't the VFD but rather the driver/power supply that
>has failed.  Probably a bad electrolytic capacitor if things go the
>way they usually do.
>
>-Chuck Harris
>
>Didier Juges wrote:
>> After the thread about the 3458 display, I went back to one of those
>VFD
>> that I mentioned in my earlier post. These had been used with only a
>few
>> digits turned on on the first line, the rest of the display being
>normally
>> turned off and only used occasionally. After several years of
>continuous
>> operation, the digits that were used  had lost brightness and more
>> interestingly, the other digits had also lost brightness but also
>looked
>> botched (the brightness was very uneven).
>>
>> It turns out I have been using one of these old displays on a new
>project
>> (it's a development job, so the unevenness does not bother me at the
>moment
>> since this display will not ship). After about 2 weeks of continuous
>use
>> where most of the digits are used, the display is now just about back
>to
>> normal. somewhat dimmer than a new one, but the unevenness has
>completely
>> disappeared.
>>
>> It looks like either the digits themselves, or the cathode wire, had
>become
>> contaminated as a result of not being used, and a few days of
>operation
>> restored their activity.
>>
>> Even more interesting, at the moment, I cannot detect a difference in
>> brightness between the old digits that were on for several years and
>those
>> that were not. The display is generally dimmer than a new one, but
>the new
>> ones are a different part number, the original device having been
>> discontinued, so it may also be that the new display is brighter
>because of
>> process improvements by the manufacturer (something the manufacturer
>> advertised when they introduced the new device).
>>
>> On this development job, most of the digits are used, and the display
>is
>> constantly changing (scrolling messages).
>>
>> Anyhow, I thought it would be interesting to mention.
>>
>> Didier KO4BB
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