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Salama,

Sounds good.. any chance of making it available to the group?

Thanks.

Mike Snetzko
IT Director
Citrus Publishing, Inc.
Crystal River, FL


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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:35 AM
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Subject: [VOPmail Beta] Cheap antispam measure ideas

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Here are two ideas I am implementing that curb a lot of spam and cost
just a 
little development time and use. I recommend using these:

- I created a box for my use only. Whenever I get spam on my mailbox, I 
forward it to that box as a storage area. I change the subject heading
to be 
more specific for spamflt0.txt. So if I get a message with a subject
like 
"Make your wife happeir with V1agra". I forward this message with
subject 
*v1agra* to that box. I know that in the future, anything with 'v1agra'
in 
the subject heading is 100% spam and it will be blocked for everyone.

I have a little vb program that runs every 5 minutes, retrieves the
messages 
from that box, extracts the subject heading, e.g; *v1agra* and adds it
to 
the spamflt0.txt. This little process saves me time from logging into 
vopmail and going through the manual clicks and text typing.


- The other process is every ip address originating spam is logged into
a 
database with a corresponding counter and timestamp. So if another spam 
comes in from the same ip address, the counter is incremeneted. Then
it's up 
to me to decide based on the counter threshhold, to add the ip address
to my 
black list. It could be as simple as a counter being incremented to 2
and 
decide that I will block all future mail from the that server. And based
on 
the timestamp I can decide on a grace period to remove them from the 
blacklist. All this is done programmatically and can be attached to the 
process above.


Feedback and improvements are welcome.

Salama



>From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [VOPmail Beta] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:44:02 -0500
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>Hello Salama,
>
>Its been pointed out by others that most spam is coming from servers
>outside of the US.  I agree that any legislation of this type will be
of
>limited value, but not for that reason.  The penalties attached to this
>legislation are not for the servers used, but for the spammer who is
>originating the spam and, unfortunately, a great majority of them
(right
>now) are from the USA.  We have seen a greater number which appear to
be
>originating from people outside of the US and that will remain a
>problem.  But if we can get even a little handle on the situation here
>by prosecuting a few good examples to other spammers, we just might
>begin to see the problem start to move down a little.  I don't think
>this legislation is a panacea, nor do I see the challenge/response idea
>as being any kind of solution, but taken together they are a start to
>getting control of a problem which is squezing us to death.
>
>The big guys like AOHELL and Earthlink and MSN etc. can all afford to
go
>after some of the spammers to make exampls of them as they are doing
>now.  But, how many of us have those kinds of resources.  We need an
>organization of pooled resources that can possibly do such things as
>hire an attorney to go after two or three major spammers to make
>examples of them.
>
>These are just ideas floating off the top of my head, what I know for
>sure that this is one case where the old saying holds true: "we shall
>hang together, or most assuredly we will all hang separately"!  We need
>a group made up of us and ISP's like us, to have a voice on things that
>concern the very existence of our businesses.
>
>MikeH
>
>
>----
>
>I had a friend who was a clown.. when he died, all his friends went to
>the
>funeral in one car..
>
>Mike Herrera
>Access One Online Services
>http://www.access-one.com
>
>
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>Quick Comments:
>
>The congress thing is only good for servers in the US. Eventually the
>spammers will use servers outside the US.
>
>
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