[VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom

[Eric Dean]

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That's not my server...but notice the 40ms on UUNET vs. your 180 ms via pnap and august.net.  That was my point.  Do the tests.  The Internet doesn't lie. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom Are we learning anything here?   I hope this is not a pissing contest.. *smile*   Here is my trace from the same server back to your router:   Tracing route to router.mcdean.com [63.89.89.65] over a maximum of 30 hops:     1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  todd-cologateway.august.net [216.87.159.193]   2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  dal-gw1.august.net [216.87.128.126]   3   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  lone-gw1.august.net [216.87.144.114]   4   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  border3.fe5-10.augustnet-1.ext1.dal.pnap.net [21 6.52.189.121]   5   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  core2.ge1-0-0-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net [216.52.1 91.97]   6   <10 ms    10 ms   <10 ms  12.119.136.21   7   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  gar2-p343.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.196.102]   8   <10 ms    10 ms   <10 ms  gbr5-p80.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.17.26]   9    10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  tbr1-p013802.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.73]  10   <10 ms    10 ms   <10 ms  ggr1-p340.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.74]  11   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  204.255.168.53  12   <10 ms    10 ms   <10 ms  0.so-1-3-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.99.210]  13    10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.193]  14    30 ms    40 ms    40 ms  0.so-6-0-0.TL1.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.198]  15    40 ms    40 ms    41 ms  0.so-5-0-0.XL1.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.25.38]  16    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  289.at-5-1-0.XR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET [152.63.39.242]    17    40 ms    30 ms    40 ms  193.ATM7-0.GW5.TCO1.ALTER.NET [152.63.39.85]  18    50 ms    40 ms    40 ms  router.mcdean.com [63.89.89.65]   Trace complete.   Thanks,  Todd Routhier  LightWave Technologies LLC.  888-230-5333 x89 Unlimited Internet Access $9.95/month http://www.LinkUpAmerica.com Want to be an ISP? http://www.YourOwnISP.com Got a website? Want to make some EZ CASH? http://www.linkupamerica.com/AffiliateInfo.asp Register Your Domain Name $12.95/yr http://www.1295netNames.com Reliable Web Hosting http://www.MuchoWeb.com Need an 800 number? http://www.MyEz800.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Tijburg Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom Eric what does that trace route prove?     Erik Tijburg RedMoon BroadBand ISP Support Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6810 Main Street  Frisco, TX 75034 Office (972) 731-0696 Cell   (469) 450-5078 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric Dean Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom There you go...that should be wonderful QoS 8-)   traceroute to yourownisp.com (216.87.159.200), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets  1  router.mcdean.com (63.89.89.65)  0.923 ms  2.727 ms  0.937 ms  2  Loopback0.GW5.TCO1.ALTER.NET (137.39.4.78)  30.845 ms  7.116 ms  17.866 ms  3  119.at-1-0-0.XR2.TCO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.39.98)  8.590 ms  46.768 ms  6.057 ms  4  292.at-0-2-0.XL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.40.5)  6.960 ms  11.362 ms  35.200 ms  5  0.so-3-0-0.TL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.144.29)  117.237 ms  51.284 ms  100.813 ms  6  0.so-4-0-0.TL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.182)  72.838 ms  104.948 ms  166.664 ms  7  0.so-7-0-0.XL2.DFW13.ALTER.NET (152.63.103.222)  74.619 ms  41.065 ms  112.017 ms  8  POS7-0.GW2.DFW13.ALTER.NET (152.63.103.229)  75.795 ms  88.309 ms  49.946 ms  9  internap2-gw.customer.alter.net (65.208.15.146)  106.115 ms  49.621 ms  49.464 ms 10  border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net (216.52.191.83)  114.571 ms  42.984 ms  47.137 ms 11  augustnet-1.border3.ext1.dal.pnap.net (216.52.189.122)  49.749 ms  41.830 ms  43.221 ms 12  yipes-l3gateway.august.net (216.87.144.113)  42.030 ms  72.399 ms  45.727 ms 13  hamlet.august.net (216.87.128.107)  63.293 ms  78.705 ms  130.500 ms 14  muchoweb200.august.net (216.87.159.200)  172.209 ms  156.048 ms  182.210 ms -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom OK, then make a move!   http://www.YourOwnISP.com   Thanks,  Todd Routhier  LightWave Technologies LLC.  888-230-5333 x89 Register Your Domain Name $12.95/yr http://www.1295netNames.com Need an 800 number? http://www.MyEz800.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Herrera Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom CISP sucks BIG TIME!  They started out fine and then started firing their staff wholesale and brought in a bunch of useless people.  The initial staff was made up of good people eager and willing to help, they replaced them with people who had none of that going for them.   MikeH     Mike Herrera Access One Online Services http://www.access-one.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Tijburg Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOP RADIUS] DialUp Usa and Vircom I have seen this problem with all the wholesale networks that I have worked with.  Radius Accounting packets are not a priority to wholesalers.  They want you to have simultaneous logins and customers stuck in radius so they can charge you more.  I did some work for CISP, who is a large wholesale aggrator for UUNet, Sprint, Qwest and about a half a dozen others. They had to turn off simultaneous login checking and some other features of Steele belted radius because of these issues.  We figured out that we only got 1 out of 8 watchdog packets and 1 out of 15 Stop packets.     Erik Tijburg