Jones, eventually you can adjust the shape and type of the fuel until it 
becomes conductive enough and has sufficient area to capture the time changing 
field and absorb power.   The Russian team that uses an inductive heating 
technique described by MFMP pressed their fuel into pellets that have the right 
area and resistivity to work with their RF generator.  In that case the normal 
heating resistor coil is not needed.

I have not studied the standard cooking drivers but would be surprised to find 
that they would work efficiently into a object with a small surface area.   You 
would be wise to construct a drive coil that has an inner area that comes 
closer to matching the fuel pellet.  That way much of the magnetic flux inside 
the main coil is linked to the pellet. A tighter coupling would allow the 
reflected resistive component due to the fuel losses to appear larger in the 
main drive loop.

RF current flowing within the main loop would induce power into the reflected 
resistance from the pellet and if the unloaded 'Q' of the main loop inductor is 
large enough,  most of the input power ends up in the pellet and not as losses 
within the drive system.

You can use resonating capacitors to cancel the input inductive component if 
you are skilled in the RF field.  With careful matching of this type, you can 
come up with an overall system that efficiently converts the DC input power 
into pellet heating.  But, it takes very careful and skillful design to make it 
happen.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Mar 20, 2015 12:20 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Am I the only one..


 
  
 
  
Dave 
  
 
  
Ø  Jones, even at 40 kHz it is going to be extremely difficult to get enough 
current to flow inside a coil of wire.  Remember, they normally drive the 
expansive sheet of resistive metal that has an effective resistance that is 
much less than an ohm.   The coils that we are using is in the vicinity of 10 
ohms.  
  
 
  
Yes, that is true but don’t forget that the tube fill mix can be made 
conductive as well. 
  
 
  
This is the reason I suggested to Jack to use Fe3O4 instead of Fe2O3 as the 
bulk fill (or support material) with an inductor setup. The former is 6 orders 
of magnitude more electrically conductive than the later.
  


So, you have a magnetic field that enters a much larger area of resistive metal 
when a pan is placed upon the unit than with the small coil.   Then, the length 
of wire used in the coil has a large series resistance whereas the pan is more 
of a parallel resistance and much less in total value.   Both of these effects 
are working against you.
  
 
  
I agree but Fe3O4 is highly conductive - although we do not know what happens 
at elevated temperature in the presence of reducing compounds, but as long as 
it is not further oxidized, Fe3O4 should be in the few Ohm range, no?
  
 
  
Not to mention acting as a transformer coil, to an extent.
  
 
  
Jones
  



  
   
    
     
      
 
     
    
   
  
 

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