Jones Beene wrote:
Terry and Harry...
Methinks you guys are glossing over the whole point of the original
posting...
It was made to be slightly humorous in a sardonic sense [or so I had
hoped] for one major reason. The point is simply this: Our government
should have investigated these claims and counterclaims thoroughly and
then issued an official statement dealing with them instead of the
*joke* investigation which we were given.
They did not. Why?
Our government has little interest in any kind of investigation of 9/11.
There is just about no chance it could result in Bush&Co looking
_better_ and every chance that it could make them look worse, whether or
not there's a deep dark secret there beyond the obvious fact that they
somehow dropped the ball.
The fact that some particular set of claims about 9/11 have not been
"thoroughly investigated" proves nothing, _suggests_ nothing, beyond the
bare fact that 9/11 wasn't handled well and Bush and Cheney would rather
have the details forgotten and only the bare fact that it was
"terrorism" and that we are living with a major "threat" remembered.
That is the real question. We can let Ken Star spend $50 million to turn
up a soiled dress and evidence of marital infidelity,
Here's what you need to ask:
Who benefits from the _investigation_?
Who doesn't benefit from the _investigation_?
With a congress and the President both from the same party, and an
administration with a strong grip on the centers of power, why would you
expect them to launch a thorough investigation into how the President
and administration might have failed us on 9/11?
No conspiracy theory is needed to explain this aspect of it.
but as a nation we
"as a nation" we have nothing to do with the investigation.
Ask your congressional leaders why the investigation has been luke-warm.
You'll quickly find they're all from the same party as the President
and nobody wants a good hard stare directed into this.
Things may change a little if the Dems sweep both houses in November,
which is possible.
cannot find the means to cough more than a third of that sum - for a
paltry and superficial investigation - Go figure - and for an event
which led us into a war where one trillion dollars will be spent - Go
figure - and for which will come out of it LESS SECURE from terrorism -
and with no more access to cheap oil than before - than if nothing had
been done - Go figure. Does that make sense to anyone?
It only makes sense in the context of the motives of a third party which
wanted the USA to go to war,
Are you suggesting that some non-Arab group perpetrated the WTC
destruction to pull us into a war with the Arabs, and that no other
interpretation makes sense? That is abject nonsense.
Please note that no connection was ever drawn between Iraq and 9/11. If
someone wanted an excuse to get us to invade Iraq, you'd think they
could have done better than faking a Bin Laden video, given,
particularly, the fact that Bin Laden and Hussein were from opposite
sides of the Shiite/Sunni split.
We got into Iraq as a result of proof-by-assertion arguments by the
President. The engineers of 9/11, whoever they were, gave him very
little help on it, as far as I can see.
and was will to do the same kind of
unspeakable acts to accomplish this - which they have been known to do
in the past ("patriotic" to them, unspeakably brutal to everyone else).
I think the possibility of Mossad being proven to have been involved is
abetting the terrorists is not great, but it is definitely there
Why pick on Mossad? Why not, say, the KGB (or whatever they're called
nowadays) or the British secret service?
Check your sources, all the way back to the origin, regarding Mossad's
involvement.
- and
our government should have been vigilant to uncover any level of help
given to the Arab terrorists by those whose own aims are furthered by
the acts they abetted.
The facts are in dispute ! true, no one denies this - and this counter
web-site mentioned, which might have been funded by Mossad sympathizers,
who knows?
"Mossad sympathizers?"
And perhaps the source of some of the anti-Mossad, anti-Israel,
conspiracy-theory information you've been drawing on was funded by
anti-semitic elements...?
will help no one in determining the real truth. It will only
spawn more conspiracy theories based on who funded its own misleading
propaganda.
We NEED as a national priority - a REAL independent investigation from a
well-funded independent prosecutor
Don't hold your breath. When you have one party controlling both houses
of congress and the presidency, you don't get thorough investigations of
anything.
This is trivially obvious and doesn't indicate the presence of some huge
conspiracy.
with a large staff and carte blanche
at FBI - who will have the ultimate capability of sending to prison even
those in our own CIA and FBI - if any of those renegade agents are found
to be complicit in this. I am sure there was ZERO high level complicity
but we know there are hardliners and Israeli spies in both agencies.
We do?
Just how do we "know" there _are_ _currently_ Israeli spies in the CIA
and FBI? What is the source of this information -- the original source,
not just a website?
That is the whole point of the piece.
The facts and rumors surrounding 9/11 are in dispute, and always will
be, up until such time as we have a real and independent Congressionally
mandated investigation. That goal will probably demand "regime change"
to accomplish.
First sensible thing you said here.
