Jones Beene wrote:
>
> Fred, there are many unexplored possibilities assuming the 
> existence of a useful level of electronium (*e) in nature. But let 
> me digress a bit with an excursion into the twilight zone of 
> quantum mechanics.
Snip the foamy Dirac Sea.
As usual even when someone agrees with you, you disagree ,Jones.  :-)
>
> From that stage, all we need to do to demonstrate, and to 
> effectively prove the existence of a useful level of electronium 
> (*e) is to show evidence from real and unrelated experiments that 
> the Ps- (negative ion) is *longer-lived* then the Ps itself.
>
Prolific Low Energy Deuteron Stripping (LEDS) a few eV instead of 2.2 MeV
was witnessed
in the early "Columbus II" gas pinch experiments at Los Alamos and
the Twisted Torus "Stellerator, Tokamaks,  CTR etc. The mass 2 to 3
electron mass 
(*e-) Triad in the deuteron instead of a regular electron could explain
this.
>
> I believe that there is indeed evidence for this claim in the 
> current literature, some of which you have mentioned in past 
> postings.
>
Good.
>
> This transitory version of the particle would be relevant even IF 
> a very long lived version of electronium (*e) is also a part of 
> nature.
>
Like the neutron it might have a more stable state when bound in a deuteron
between the two (three quark triads) the Protons.
>
> Having established the existence of a useful natural level of 
> electronium (*e) with a lifetime long enough to catalyze either 
> stripping or low energy fusion - then we seem to be a giant step 
> ahead of having to work down from only a raw presumption that (*e) 
> also exists in a permanent long lived state. I believe that it 
> does, but that it is such a low percentage of the normal electron 
> population, that it will hard to prove working form the top down
>
Fine. Set up a LEDS experiment and see how the stripped neutrons decay
(time and energy).
Wild-Eyed Theories (WETs) don't mean squat if you can't come up with a
supportive
experiment.  
Whenever one gets a "warm feeling" about a (WET) it might be a bladder
control problem, or worse.
>
> IOW even if there is some stable (*e) undetected - we can work 
> around the lack of proof and show that it must be there in a 
> transitory state. 
>
Isn't the CF & PNL, ORNL's (undisclosed publicly) neutron Sonofusion Bubble
experiments
sufficient supporting evidence to justify the LEDS/Neutron Lifetime-Decay
experiments?

Fred
>
> Jones
>
> From: Frederick Sparber
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Electroniumized Deuterons & Low Energy Deuteron 
> Stripping
>
> The P-e-P ----> D  reaction is well known, but, if instead a 
> heavier electronium (*e-)
> participates:
>
> P-(*e-)-P ----> (*D)
>
> Stripping:  (*D) ----->  P +  (*n)
>
> Then:   (*n) ----> (*e-) + P
>
> What happens to the D - D Fusion reactions when they change to D - 
> (*D)
> or (*D)  - (*D)?
>
> Fred 



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