Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

> The thing you need to keep firmly in mind is that all motions considered 
> here are as seen by an observer stationary in the "laboratory frame" and 
> in that frame the motion of the charges is not simple rotation about the 
> ring's axis; it's got a translation added to it.  The charges are 
> following something more akin to a cycloidal path than a circular path.
> 
> Here's a picture which may help; the red line, motion of the charges, is 
> supposed to be the sum of the green line (translation) and the black 
> curve (rotational velocity) (ok ok the lines are not drawn not to scale, 
> sorry):
> 
>   http://www.physicsinsights.net/images/moving-ring.png
> 
> The B field is assumed to point UP through the page, so the Lorentz 
> force lies in the page and is perpendicular to the net motion of the 
> charges.

So with your model the ring would not slow down if the box with the dipole
field moved instead of the ring?

George Holz
Varitronics Systems


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