----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Winestone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products


"If the goal is a combination of stability and instability that is a disgusting mix
of opportunism and pragmatism."

Nope - it's called "life".
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Exactly so. There is an excellent book, "At Home in the Universe", which persuasively argues that Life, as a dynamic biochemical process, exists in the non-equilibrium zone between statsis and chaos. If you want order, try prison. A gun-toting Segway has an ancestor celebrated by a statue in Ukraine, three rearward-pointing guns mounted on a horse-drawn carriage, which was a decisive weapon in some war or other.

Living orgasnisms are in continual contest with the unfolding Universe. No static, "safe" solution exists, even for a nation, for the external world continually changes and that which does not change with it will die.

Mike Carrell





P.






At 11:53 PM 8/21/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Philip Winestone wrote:

> Hmmmm.... I didn't say that meaningful change only happens through
> violence. If you read that into my note, you're simply reading your > own
> fantasies...
>
> When people say a "stable world" it could mean many things. I > deliberately
> spoke about "scientific dogma," as this "scientific stability", is,
> apparently, what the Vorts are continuously fighting against.
>
> There is no such thing as stabiity either in the external or internal
> worlds, and so far, it seems to me that all those who have tried to > create > a stable world, have tried to force stability on "the masses." Take a > look > at a number of dictatorships and see if all the dictators of the world > were
> or were not prepared to use violence to enforce stability, because they
> knew that instability could be their downfall. So it seems in fact > that > stability is often gained - or attempted - through violence, the > overall > idea being "If only everybody believed and behaved as I do, we would > have a
> nice, stable world."



The goal is for everyone to live in peace, freedom and prosperity. If the
goal is a combination of stability and instability that is a disgusting mix
of opportunism and pragmatism.

> Our enemies - and we do have enemies - would like to impose their type > of > stability on us; they've said as much: that eveyone should think and > dress
> and behave (and pray, if you're into that) one way only - their
> way.  Stability.
>
> You want a reasonable way to unseat the terrorists?  Make their lives
> continuously unstable.
>
> P.


For the first time in its history Israel did not achieve its military
objectives. It seems from media accounts that many Muslims and Arabs
consider it a victory are more ready to talk peace than ever before.



Harry



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