Terry,

Re: Electric Ice

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/13sep_electricice.htm?list920094

.. your mention of frozen English peas has jogged the memory. Here is an excerpt from the article.

[BTW don't the Brits call them French Peas?]

"In a thundercloud ... tiny ice crystals become positively charged and waft to the top of the cloud, while bulkier ice pellets (called "graupel") become negatively charged and plummet to the bottom. This separation creates mega-volts of electrical tension- and hence the lightning."

OK. At the time of previously mentioned experiment, I was just getting aquainted with Frank Grimer and his aether hierarchy concept. We were both thinking that there could be energy anomalies resulting from rapid water phase changes, where at a few degrees C, water density increases rather significantly - but at the actual phase-change - density then swings the other way, and decreases.

Side Note: If ice did not float, this would be a very different planet.

There is a rather significant swing of pvt parameters, at the acutal phase change, and despite the low overall temperature, the process could be net energtic.

Anyway, the idea is that the double-density swing, if it happens fast enough, would cohere beta-aether energy somehow. Apparently from the article, it frees up electrons, and the tinier crystals become positively charged. When this happens very quickly, following injection of near-freezing water into a vacuum - for instance - at what must be nozzle-speed approaching supersonic, then the effect is heightened. Once the ice and free electrons leave the syringe nozzle, and expand - the electrostatic forces will builf up rapidly and accelerate the electons back to the positively charged ice - and that gradient is apparently enough to create x-rays.

My rad-meter is much more sensitive than the normal CD variety, but the threshold is still close to 10,000 eV so a burst of x-rays at that intensity signifies significant energy. Of course, it also takes significant mechanical energy to inject the cold water.

I suspect that Frank may be of the opinion that if there just happened to be an excess energy anomaly in the overall process - that it would be due to this beta-aether modality operating to create large electrostatic gradient between free electrons and positively charged nano ice crystal ... ?

... you might even call it "lightning in a bottle" if you were a Blues fan.

Jones

Hey ... it doesn't necessarily take a Lightnin' Hopkins, even with a mojo-hand <g> to put the dots together and to realize that lightning may be mother nature's original form of "free energy"...

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