Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it >> gets colder as it creates mechanical power? > > Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based > engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to "steal heat" from the > environment, nor any evidence whatsoever that it does so.
That's not a true statement. Permanent magnets are magnetic materials with relatively high coercivity. When one studies MCE (Magnetocaloric effect) they learn about such effects such as micro and nano magnetic avalanches, etc. It is possible to rob ambient energy from magnetic materials as I have my proof in way of highly sensitive temperature measurements with certain magnetic materials. > It's type-1 perpetual motion: violation of the first law, which is > conservation of energy. If the Steorn motor works, then a Steorn motor > operating in a closed environment will warm up that environment. > > You're talking about type-2 perpetual motion: violation of the second > law, with energy moving "uphill" against a thermal gradient. If your > idea for diode arrays works, then when it's operating in a closed > environment, it will make no net difference to the temperature of that > environment. That's simply not true. An LED connected to a resistor generates photons. All LED's dissipate energy below the forward voltage, as there's no lower limit. Furthermore, there's no upper crest voltage limit to *real* noise. The photon energy emitted from the LED comes from the resistors ambient energy. If you focus the photons on a solar cell, and connect the solar cell to a battery then you are essentially converting the kinetic energy in ambient temperature to potential energy in the battery, which does *indeed* drop the overall temperature with in the closed system. :-) Regards, Paul Lowrance [snip] ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

