Hi,

Important email. If you don't like reading big emails then please scroll down till you see the header "IMPORTANT."

I know that an LED can capture some black body radiation and convert it to DC electrical energy. Unfortunately, as far as I know not until recently LED's were unable to emit or absorb any appreciable radiation near 4500 nm. A typical long wavelength IR LED is 950 nm with 50 nm BW. Somewhere I have the figures, but basically the amount of black body energy at room temperature between 925 nm and 975 nm is next to useless. On the other hand, the amount of black body radiation energy between 4400 nm and 4600 nm is significant.

I have no idea how efficient these leading edge MID-IR LED's are at absorbing such radiation, but I for one *firmly* believe it's at least worth the effort to find out. Supposedly these 4500 nm LED's are efficient at emitting such radiation. My experiments demonstrate normal LED's act as a good photovoltaic cell. For example, take two similar LED's face to face. Apply ~1.5 volts on one LED while reading the DC voltage of the other LED. Some LED's are good enough to generate close to 1.5 volts. Now separate the LED's till you get 1 mV. Now double the distance and if done properly you'll see the voltage will drop by ~1/2. I just received a quote from such a leading edge LED company of $108 for one single LED! That should give you an idea just how leading edge these LED's are. I had an idea of trying to get that LED company to perform a simple test, rather than pay $108 + S&H to buy one LED. Here's the idea -->


IMPORTANT:
If anyone has the time, could you *please* send an email to the http://deepredtech.com LED company requesting the following experiment, perhaps in your own words? I would like to give them the idea that collaborated physicists around the world are interested. And it's true, physicists would be interested if these leading edge ultra long wavelength LED's could indeed capture a part of the 460 Watts/m^2 blackbody radiation that's peak at ~15000 nm at room temperature.

Now I have to admit, there's an appreciable chance this company does not have the appropriate equipment or patience to measure this noise, as the active area of these LED's are roughly 300 x 300 um^2. So the amount of voltage noise caused by black body radiation could be quite small.

Here's the email I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which you could use an an example.
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply! Could you possibly have someone take a quick measurement on your LED46 since I did not see it in the datasheet? I would like to know the rms voltage noise the LED46 generates when it's pointed at a wall of the same temperature. So if the LED46 temperature is 300 Kelvin then the wall temperature should also be close to 300 Kelvin. If you do not have a sensitive rms meter capable of measuring down to 0.1 mV then even an eyeball reading of the peek to peek voltage over say 1 minute would be great. Actually I am hoping your LED46 generates a lot of noise. If your LED generates a lot of voltage noise then a great deal of physicists around the world that I'm in contact with and I would purchase the LED's.
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Regards,
Paul Lowrance

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