On Jun 2, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:



I meant that in the absence of the rotor each stator wire tip will
create an ion wind loop in a _vertical_ radial plane (referring to
the first device photographed on the web site too).

Yes - two actually.

Er, why two?


The mental model I'm using consists of the radial stator wires attached to the vertical shaft at the same level as the ping pong balls. Given the stator ion wind leaves the stators in an outbound radial direction, a pressure reduction occurs there, thus there has to be, in the immediate vicinity of the wires, due to the reduced pressure, an axial inflow of air to feed air to the stator wires. That axial inflow should come from both top down and bottom up, thus the creation of two doughnut shaped vortices with their holes centered on the shaft, with opposed directions of rotation.




Yes, but not in the horizontal plane to which I referred.

Ah, in projection you mean,


No, I was actually referring to motion, streamlines, that occur in that plane. It is not an uncommon thing to view (model) fluid motion in a cross section. Technically I suppose it is a thin cross section, having thickness dz.


I thought you meant the ions moved only in that plane because you wrote "_outward_ radially", in fact it's only outward for a short distance and then inward for most of the ion flight time.


Since the balls and tangential facing wires are the opposed charge attractor of the ions, I expect a lot of the ion radial motion is all the way out there.

One thing I did forget is that the stator wires are grounded, so a charged wire ring or some such would be needed to replace the armature in order look at the air flow when there is no armature.

Regards,

Horace Heffner


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