On Jun 2, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Jones Beene wrote:



If but one in every 1,000 molecules of water vapor picks up an exciton-type of charge (fractional volt) ... and one is able to simulate AC by some method, we are still left with... who knows?

Anyway - I agree that the solar tower makes little sense - but this is too interesting to write off as a direct correlation to that.


The separation of charges required to generate a current requires a force be exerted on the charges. That force in this case comes from collision with molecules in motion, that motion being caused by the buoyancy of the warm air in the column. The collision of the ions with those molecules in the column in effect introduces friction to the column flow. The friction reduces the energy available from the flow just as propellers inserted in the flow reduce the flow in proportion to the energy extracted by the propellers.

The principle advantage to using ion flow is the direct conversion to DC electrical energy without the expense of generators etc. The ion driving technique has been examined for use in windmills, both as static devices through which wind blows and as devices placed on the tips of windmill rotors. It didn't work out as cost effective. However, maybe that doesn't mean it won't work out in a cooling tower having high humidity.

I think one reason wind walls or wind towers will become economical is the fact cooling water is starting to come at a premium cost, if even available. An extremely high tower not only provides access to cooler high altitude temperatures, it can convert a lowly class I wind location into a class IV or V location, while providing huge amounts of surface area for cooling and possibly solar energy gathering.

Regards,

Horace Heffner

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