Let me add another very specific detail that I think Terry will agree to: an 
inexpensive meter (dedicated power analyzer) from these folks is the missing 
recommendation from Steorn (for good reason):

http://www.valhallascientific.com/wattmeters-power-analyzers/index.shtml

... since it will likely uncover self-delusion based on inaccurate scope 
readings. Get one ! if you are one of their evaluators. EBay usually has them 
at a discount and many other companies make more expensive versions.

Spiky power cannot be measured accurately with an oscilloscope by anyone less 
than a professional with years of experience and a top of the line scope. 

The Valhalla permits this to be accomplished by amateurs, and even by most of 
the Steorn 'experts', cough, cough (which is not to agree that there are any) - 
thanks to the DSP and modern technology, so ask yourself why this is not 
mentioned prominently ? 

The savings in cost of the meter is in the range of 10-1 over a good DSP scope 
with power analyzer functionality - but they don't mention it due to the fact 
they suspect the scam will be uncovered before they can flush out all of the 
gullible testers around the globe with an extra $500 bucks to burn, or whatever 
this $cam amounts to at this time... laughing all the way to pub, mates!

Having said that - I will concede that there could be net OU with their device 
- in the sense of high-grade energy P-in (i.e. electrical) and low grade energy 
(heat) P-out. But this is not claimed, since even if it were true it will be 
small and will not bring in funds for continuing the high-life in Dublin.

For that kind of OU determination, only a precision calorimeter will suffice. 
If you don't have one, why waste your time? ... and where is theirs?


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Blanton 

I have been making measurements of pulse motors for many years.  It's
easy to make mistakes.  One should be careful in placing too much
faith in the measuring instruments.  It's always good to approach an
amazing result from various angles.

That being said, I have never failed to be able to explain, even to
non-technical people, exactly what I am measuring and what the result
means.  The Orboadvocates seem unable to do this simple thing.

Many mistakes result from trying to use power calculations to
determine efficiency.  In cyclical systems, I have found it far easier
to make energy per cycle calculations and they are less prone to
error.

T



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