At 04:45 PM 10/19/2010, [email protected] wrote:
In reply to  Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:28:48 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>The assumption underneath this is a strange one, it is that the
>reaction, if it exists, must be "d-d fusion." Since there are no
>neutrons, no He-3, and, with helium, no gamma rays, *therefore* the
>results must be in error.
>
>Of course, there is an alternate conclusion, just as logical:
>"Therefore this is not d-d fusion."

There is a third possibility. It is DD fusion, but the normal path is not
followed. There are at least three theories that would make this possible.

1) Takahashi
2) Mine - the energy is carried away from the reaction by a fast electron (IC).
3) Horace's - which I don't quite understand.

Yes, of course, I often point this out. You are incorrect, however, Takahashi's theory is not DD fusion. It is 4D fusion, four deuterons simultaneously collapsing and fusing all at once, that's why the product is helium and why there is no gamma ray (because there are two products, so momentum can be conserved.)

What I point out is that perhaps there is some special condition for 2D fusion that causes it to branch exclusively to helium, and that carries away the reaction energy in a different way.

Sorry about your fast electron theory, if I'm correct, Hagelstein has set a limit of about 20 KeV for any substantial levels of charged particles from the reaction, otherwise stuff, like Bremmstrahlung radiation, would be observed. That's a problem for about every theory except cluster fusion.

I.e., *if* there is D-D fusion, it's taking place within a cluster, so the reaction energy is shared among all members of the cluster.

And that simply is not ordinary d-d fusion. It's far easier just to say, "No, you are right. D-d fusion is impossible." And then, later, if somehow what is actually happening involves two deuterons becoming one helium nucleus, we can say, "Oops. We were wrong. Everybody was wrong. And here is what is actually happening....."

Basically, it appears that anything that just brings two deuterons together, like muon-catalyzed fusion, produces normal branching and results.

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