From: Roarty, Francis X
* Real speculative but I wonder if moving magnetic fields can react with ambient 3rd body gases trapped in the material itself - not necessarily Casimir geometry but enclosed cavities of ferrous material that can be suppressed like the microwave cavity claims of delayed half lives - Or, alternatively if one could intentionally manufacture magnetic cores with lots of Casimir cavities - already filled with hydrogen .? The point being that hydrogen as a molecule is diamagnetic but this changes going to an ion or to monatomic or any scenario with unpaired electrons - so it could be possible to exploit that. At least this route gives one an underlying way (ZPE) to justify what would otherwise be a violation of CoE. Not sure if the route which Terry mentions - "force of attraction between two given magnets at a given distance is more than the force of propulsion" really provides a valid pathway to tap into ZPE. Steorn, like many experimenters, does not go back to first principles in looking for gain - but instead looks for a reported anomaly and tries to build on it in other ways. Maybe it is time to start with the Casimir cavity (for instance) as the first priority? But if not, I wonder if Steorn ever tried the toroid trick with a reciprocating NIB in attraction? They seemed to be on an promising track with toroids in the rotating device, even though there was little asymmetry to play with (apparently). As a matter of logic, it seems that a strong magnet moving towards a toroid, like they had in the rotating version, but moving perpendicular to the uncharged toroid - would be asymmetrical wrt to the release - IF - the toroid was pulse-charged at TDC (or BDC as the case may be). That seemed to be the vague principle they were trying to exploit with the rotator - vector shifting of flux into the toroid? I still do not see any underlying principle that would tap into ZPE for instance, so it could be hopeless. I never followed their forum . no regrets there, since it appeared from many reports that it was little more than a delusion which then too easily morphed into 'pint money' for a bunch of Dublin's finest pub crawlers . (hope that does not sound like jealousy) . but hey . they generated enough free input from 3rd party tinkerers to have learned something along the way - and with 'luck of the Irish' being what it is - they could have been in the right place at the right time to pull it off (so to speak). Jones

