just to add a metaphor to the reasoning : imagine that someone present discussable, but credible, proofs of the following facts, spread on internet : - an economic 50MT H bomb in Saudi arabia, iran, texas, canada - a neutron bomb on Durban summit - economic 9/11 style terrorist attack on all energy company, carbon exchanges, green companies, climate research
now, how would the target react : do you expect such a silent of media, yet spread on internet do yo expect no reaction of market no private or government inquiry no communication of them ? me I could expect : - media trying to make top story on that, and govt/biz forcing them to silent - all govt/biz trying to detect the fraud - all bosses selling their shares, to flee out of the ruins if they know it is true, ans saying it is fake with fake proofs - all bosses/lords telling it is a fraud with proofs 2011/12/10 Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> > Hi, > I've just seen that clip about -cat & al... > > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmw45i_e-catalyzer-e-cat-andrea-rossi-energy-catalyzer-revolution-all-parts-1-2-3-4-5-6-10-12-11_news > very positive vision, but it shows a way todays situation could be > interpreted... > and it raise a pointy to me, whate ever is the situation (I'll say later > the 3 hypothesis), why are the media, the finance, the police, the secret > service, the oild industry, the nuke industry, the saudi, not doing > anything, either to react to a real e-cat, to a possible real e-cat, or to > show others that might be believing in e-cat that their fear/hope is fake... > the current reaction of the media/gov/biz is... > stupid/incoherent/crazy/unreal. > > here i might look as a believer, but I'm skeptic, as usual, but skeptic > about each hypothesis, and less skeptic about the less incoherent. > > the 3 hypothesis I see are : > > 1- LENR/Cold Fusion is a fake+mistake since the beginning. all researche > made is base on fraud and faithful errors. Rossi and Defkalion, Focardi, > Aern are fraudster, working in gang or parasiting each other fraud... > -> let me say that given the nulmber of fraudster this look not far from > conspiracy theory like 911's... moreover for the scientist in cause, they > are not in a cashable domain compared to usual fraud domain like drugs, > military toys or climate apocalypse. > -> if not 1 we have to admit that LENR/CF works, at least in labs > > 2- LENR on Ni+H works in labs, but Rossi & Focardi are fraudster that have > invented the results, created Defkalion and the virtual clients, > manipulated journalists, scientists... maybe defkalion is not an invention > of rossi, but a victim that discover the scam, and start to make it's own > fraud to steal investors/licensor. > -> here also Rossi is not alone, and should have manipulated/bought many > actors to do the job. anyway hist demo are not very proofing for external > viewers (by my job I know that proving to yourself, to a partner, or a > thrid poarty are 3 differehnt level of proof method. it is normal that > prooving to a client does not prove to third party). Defkalion, and it's > large board of directors add more actors in the scam. Ocean 11 plots looks > toys storry compared to rossi's plot. > > 3- Rossi have a working e-cat, and defkalion have make/stollen one...(I > think in fact it is easy, since rossi is not the best engineer on earth, > except about stone-head personality) . rossi make bad demo because he is > not the best engineer, have still engineering problems, want to hide data > by (justified or not) paranoia, don't care about public acceptance but only > about client. defkalion have made a working prototype because LENR is not > so complicated once you know the principle, because they are good engineer > with open mind and no belief, and maybe they guess/see the easy secret of > rossi, maybe guessing how to make a variation... > -> here you understand the strange behavior of each, but you cannot be > sure.. > > the problem is not about the 3 hypothesis, but about the fact that whate > ever is the truth, the media, the governments, the smart people, the corp > should do one of the following: > - first they shoul try to detect if it is a scam like case 1 or 2. > governements, big business, finance rats, will pay thousands of detectives > to avoid uncertainty, or own insider information, much more than DSK have > paid... > - if it is a scam, some finance men will try to propagate the idea that it > is true, to get cash by betting on the opposite... they will use the big > media and make a big scam, playing the opposite they say, like Goldman > Sachs have made with sub-primes. > - some other stakeholders, who own sensible assets (like the saudi, areva, > France, exxon, Solar/wind industry, ...) will quickly denounce the scam to > avoid a crash of their own assets. > > - if it is true, some finance men will invest like crazy in looking good > (I think that there are no winner except consuming industry,and plumbers), > but also they will sell quickly the losers like solar/wind energy, nuclear > energy, oil, renewable energy, bio-fuel&al... > > - it it is true the losers, won't try to kill rossi(to late, won't change > anything), but at least they will make counter lobbying, trying to raise > dangers awareness... maybe to try to delay the crash, ou privatize the > benefits in they hands... > > And I see nothing of any rational behavior... > > is the media, the finance, the gov, the industry, so stupid... > > hard to believe... > > > > >
