On Dec 29, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
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From: Horace Heffner
They cannot fuse. Surprisingly many vorticians apparently do not
realize that this reaction is strongly endothermic.
This is false. Consider:
H + H --> D + e+ + v + 0.42 MeV
That is half the story. You neglect the threshold condition.
I certainly do not ignore the threshold condition. Did you even
bother to read the reference?
IOW this reaction is meaningless to consider for any form of LENR
or even
Tokomak fusion, since it does NOT take into account the required
threshold
condition. Not to mention the neutrino carries away the bulk of
energy, so
it is endothermic in the sense of being able to sustain a continuing
reaction.
It takes nominal energy to accommodate deflation fusion, and zero
energy to form the deflated state.
IOW this reaction cannot happen outside of massive gravity conditions
(solar, or else and earthly accelerator that can never reach
breakeven). The
threshold temperature for protium fusion is on the order of
10,000,000 K (10
million degrees Kelvin). Rossi is getting excess heat at a
threshold of
about 500 K.
In a gas or vacuum yes, in a lattice I would expect a very very small
amount, as I noted in my article and repeated here. "A very very
small" amount. "A very very small" amount. "A very very small"
amount. "A very very small" amount. I also noted that "... this
gamma producing reaction was not observed above background in the
Rossi E-cats."
Big difference. There is no evidence that hydrogen fusion is
involved in
Rossi.
Jones
Hydrogen fusion with hydrogen - yes. Hydrogen fusion with heavy
elements - there is evidence, if it if Rossi's circus is not all
boondoggle.
You are merely making a straw man argument here. You make the straw
man, you tear it down. You ignore the important issues.
As explained in my article, I think these are the feasible reactions:
58Ni28 + 2 p* --> 60Ni28 + 2 v + 18.822 MeV [-0.085]
60Ni28 + 2 p* --> 62Ni28 + 2 v + 16.852 MeV [-1.842]
60Ni28 + 2 p* --> 58Ni28 + 4He2 + 7.909 MeV [-10.786]
60Ni28 + 2 p* --> 61Ni28 + 1H1 + v + 7.038 MeV [-11.657]
61Ni28 + 2 p* --> 62Ni28 + 1H1 + v + 9.814 MeV [-8.777]
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 64Ni28 + 2 v + 14.931 Mev [-3.560]
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 64Zn30 + 13.835 MeV [-4.656]
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 60Ni28 + 4He2 + 9.879 MeV [-8.612]
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 63Cu29 + 1H1 + 6.122 MeV [-12.369]
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 59Co27 + 4He2 + 1H1 + 00.346 MeV [-18.145]
64Ni28 + 2 p* --> 66Zn30 + 16.378 MeV [-1.918]
64Ni28 + 2 p* --> 62Ni28 + 4He2 + 11.800 MeV [-6.497]
64Ni28 + 2 p* --> 65Cu29 + 1H1 + 7.453 MeV [-10.843]
Ni28 + 2 p* ---> Ni28 + 2 1H1 + 0 MeV [+6 Mev ZPE]
and of these, the following are the primary energy producing reactions:
62Ni28 + 2 p* --> 64Zn30 + 13.835 MeV [-4.656]
64Ni28 + 2 p* --> 66Zn30 + 16.378 MeV [-1.918]
It is not possible to tell at this point what proportion of the
energy might come from the purely zero point energy fueled
interaction. If it is the great majority, then little isotopic shift
would be observed, especially for short experiments.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
