Yes, Carbon Nanostructure-based LENR (what I call LENR2) is new, not-understood, unproven and certainly untested. Absolutely - that's why it's the "bleeding edge" of LENR research. And whoever has evidence for it will surely not share it. You have to rediscover this on your own if you want a piece of it.
No one can give you an LENR2 reactor yet; but then again, no one can give you an LENR or LENR+ reactor as well. But, evidence for LENR2 mechanism is accumulating. In Carbon Nanosturctues such as nanotubes and graphene, many have discovered critical properties to LENR reactions such as superconductivity at high temperatures, ballistic conduction and charge accumulation. One needs to recognize that these are the properties that are likely the properties that are necessary for a NAE. No, Rossi did not discover his LENR2 mechanism from the Chinese. He got help from our own US Navy "skunkworks". Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Guenter Wildgruber To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Jojo, maybe I missed that. but in my humble opinion carbon-nanostructures are hypothetical conceptual vehicles, which nobody in the field ever investigated. I don not want to say that such structures could not exist, but I do not see any evidence in the literature known to me. This would be a deep research-issue, I suspect, to bring it into reality, and is an OPEN TOPIC. Question: do You think that Rossi solved that, with a little help of some Chinese wizards, who promise everything and deliver something of questionable value, if you only pay., eg Android 4.0 devices for $80. Pay a Chinese (sorry folks) 1million to detect the Higgs Boson, they faithfully deliver it via UPS, tax-free in four weeks. Excuse my sarcasm. Guenter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Von: Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> An: Vortex <[email protected]> Gesendet: 6:41 Montag, 9.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Guenter, once again I believe you missed the point. I thought I did a good job in explaining in the last post, but apparently I did not. So let me try again. You only have the 400C recrystallization issue or the Curie Point issue or any other temp-limiting issue if your NAE is Nickel Lattice or some other transistion metal (with the exception of possibly Tungsten). If your NAE is cracks, or patches, or unusual geometry on the Nickel lattice, then you have this temp limitation and higher temper it s will destroy these environments. But if your NAE is Carbon Nanostructures, you do not have an NAE that is easily destroyed by temperatures. Carbon Nanostructures like nanotubes and graphene can easily resist higher temperatures without its structure being destroyed. You can host higher temps on Carbon Nanostructures NAE. Carbon Nanostructures have demonstrated higher temperature resistance. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Guenter Wildgruber To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Jojo, Maybe, maybe not. Count me in the doubter's camp. As I tried to explain: 400++ degC is a domain where recrystallization occurs. this is not your comfortable home-temperature. See 'the laws of recrystallization', subtopic -- Laws of recrystallization -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recrystallization_(metallurgy) It is ONE thing to question ONE law, but a different thing to question quite a bunch of them simultaneously,. As an engineer with some philosophical leanings (quite rare) I tell You that I am not quite ready to put Rossi into the alltime hall of fame of the likes of Plato, Aristoteles or Einstein. My guess is, that he is more like a Karl May character, who pretended to have visited distant lands, without ever experiencing them, or messing things up, doing a disservice to us all. Sorry. Guenter -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Von: Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> An: Vortex <[email protected]> Gesendet: 17:31 Sonntag, 8.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Yes, 600c seems like an overstretch only because we do not understand what's going on. Just like how Huzienga and Parks would think of Cold Fusion. They don't understand it, so it is an overstretch. However, Axil seems to have done a good job in stitching together a probable explanation that can easily explain this 600C. This result is entirely probable in the context of Carbon Nanostructure-based LENR. Carbon Nanostructure-based LENR can be more consistent and controllable so I do not see a problem with 600C, or even 1000C reaction temps. Many seems to have recognized the possibility of Carbon Nanostructure-based LENR paradigm, most notable of which may include both Ed Storms and W&L. I have speculated repeatedly in the past that one of the reason why Rossi changed to a flat design was due to the need to deliver more consistent Sparking/arc discharge. Now, evidence is mounting that such an environment is consistent with Carbon Nanosturcture-based LENR, as these Carbon Nanostructures are easily created in such an electric discharge environment. In fact, I would go one step further and speculate that I believe Rossi's new flat design may be a hybrid Arc Discharge/CVD reactor that creates abundant Carbon Nanostructures that appear to be critical to increased power density. We know that Carbon Nanotubes are good NAE candidates. In Lou's post of W&L slides, W&L presents compelling evidence of the possibility of Graphene as a possible NAE. Both of these Nanosturcutures appear to be good platforms for the Nuclear Active Environment. If one recognizes the possibility of these Carbon Nanostructures as the NAE, one will not have too much problems believing the Rossi 600C stable operating temps. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Guenter Wildgruber To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Rossi, the sparrow does a good job of concealing his hand, in poker speech. And endlessly promises. Bids up his hand to 600degC, knowing that 1000degC would give him a good laugh, even from the most friendly of his friends. What I tried to do, is argue, that 600degC is already an overstretch of the poker-hand from both sides: Rossi AND DGT. Maybe I am wrong. Actually I hope so, because the planet would be safe for another couple of hundred years, and could heal from human folly. Guenter Guenter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Von: Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> An: Vortex <[email protected]> Gesendet: 15:25 Sonntag, 8.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations ...The assumption undergriding a pseudo-skeptics attitude is that he understands everything there is to understand about the subject, therefore whatever he does not understand must be false. This of course is the sad state of attitude prevailing in modern science nowadays. Jojo
