At 05:37 PM 8/20/2012, Craig Brown wrote:
The most fundamental question is of the power figures being
claimed. Neither Rossi nor Defkalion have yet produced an
independent test / report from a reputable third party organisation
so far despite assurances that this would occur by now.
Personally, I think they need to address the elephant in the room
before we get into the minutia.
As long as they have sufficient capital, they don't "need" to do
anything. They have no obligation to satisfy our curiosity.
Look, Rossi or anyone with an NiH device that is close to
commercialization could make a profit, while preserving their
intellectual property -- patenting it -- by selling a demonstration
device. Doesn't have to be truly reliable -- i.e., stable. Doesn't
have to produce spectacular power, just measurable power. Quite
simply, it must demonstrate the effect. People would line up to buy
it, and it wouldn't even need to be particularly cheap.
They don't do that, because they are holding on to secrets, perhaps
because they are not really secrets, they aren't patentable. It's
also possible that they don't have such a device, they are "working on it."
Until we know, *we don't know.*
Many people, like Jed, have offered to help Rossi run a truly
convincing demonstration. He's always declined. *He doesn't want such
a demonstration,* it's obvious.
I was fascinated to see Stirling Allen of PESN report that John
Rohner is deliberately looking flaky in order to depress attention,
because he's not ready for massive attention, i.e., doesn't have
stuff (i.e, Papp Engines) ready to ship. He's "getting ready." It
appears he is able to convince investors, which means little or
nothing; the investors might be smart or stupid. Some stupid people
are rich. Some smart people, also, make mistakes, they take risks
which don't always pan out.
Same story, really.
We don't know until we know.
but many of us don't like not knowing. "Besides, he has such an honest face."
Or, in the other direction, "You can see how guilty he looks when the
video camera catches him appearing to touch the controls."
The real and apparent story here, at this point, is about people.