You are correct that the cathode or the lead attached to the negative supply is 
where the hydrogen is released.  I have an experiment running at the moment 
with Borax and two nickels as electrodes.  It is taking about 20 volts to get 
.5 amps of current into the system.  So far nothing interesting.

Earlier I used table salt as the electrolyte and my nickel attached to the 
positive supply terminal was dissolved into the solution.  I next used a penny 
there and it too was eaten up.

I am going to review electrolysis theory soon to understand why this happened.


-----Original Message-----
From: Teslaalset <>
To: vortex-l <>
Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 6:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck 

I wonder whether anode and cathode are mixed up here.
The cathode in such setup generates Hydrogen. 
Using a coin as cathode enables hydrogen to merge into the coin's metal lattice.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Alan J Fletcher <> wrote:

At 12:25 PM 9/19/2012, Jones Beene wrote:

"If I had a nickel for every time" ...
So ... with that caveat in mind, here's a cheap tip about what to do with
another cheap tip - all those Buffalo coins you've been saving for the meter
... IOW - there is a ready source of Romanowski alloy for Celani type
reactions in your pocket, or center console, as we speak.

The U.S. nickel has been a cupronickel since 1913 and the composition is
rather similar to Constantan:  75% copper 25% nickel with trace amounts of
manganese. Romanowski would approve.

Last year I had a private email from Charles (Chuck) Sites --- who has given me 
permission to post :

 I was reading Vortex-L and followed your link.  I'm an old cold fusion guy
but pretty much a lurker.  I found your article on Rossi's E-Cat to be very

Here is a story about CF, from 1984 with Pons and Flieshman
announced their discovery,  I was a young excited physics student, and
immediately want to test the concept of CF.  I didn't have palladium, nor
deuterium.  So I was looking for an alternative.   I was thinking, Boron has a
very large cross section (Q factor) and B11 could easily cold fuse given the
right  circumstances.   So looking at what I had, what would be a good source
of Ni? Not knowing it's metal makeup I choose an American nickel 5-cent piece.
(75 percent copper, 25 percent Ni) This was the Anode.  A source of Boron,
would be Borax (Na2B4.10H2O).  The cathode, I used graphite.   This was hooked
up to a 65 Watt 5 Volt supply from an IBM PC. To my surprise, the Nickel got
extraordinarily hot.   Too hot to touch, and I melted several plastic p tree
dish before changing to jars.   I was always able to bring pint of water to
80C after running for about 8 hours.

Other metals used for the Anode, showed no indications of even being warm.
(Steel, Aluminum, Copper, Zinc).  So a US 5 cent piece gave great results.
I even had a Geiger counter go off once, but it may have been a cosmic ray.
Given that, I could never really understand how this Nickel got hot without
radiation.  I could never get a theory as to how it worked either, in spite of
the fact that the experiment is very repeatable.


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