David L Babcock <[email protected]> wrote:

> Re many things running out,  I agree that we are starting to learn how to
> work around looming shortages in various critical materials, but many of
> these are going to prove hopelessly expensive to implement.  I offer
> phosphorus as an example: where do you find a replacement for that, feeding
> 7 billion people, when the mines run out?
>

Well, the stuff does not vanish. Mass is conserved. It is not blown in
small particles into the landscape the way some Pd in catalytic converters
is. So let's see . . .

Most is used for fertilizer to grow plants. In the U.S. most plants are fed
to livestock, and the rest is eaten by people. So the P ends up in . . .
pee, and manure and sewage. So that's where you will find it. With cheap,
limitless energy we can easily recycle it.

There isn't much in seawater: 0.1 ppm, but I expect we will be purifying
vast amount of seawater so maybe we can get some from that.

In the future I expect meat production will be done in vitro. This will use
far less P. It will eliminate most pollution from manure run-off. It will
eliminate the need for a large fraction of agricultural land. Breakthroughs
such as this can greatly reduce our need for resources.

In the long term, I expect we will build space elevators and begin
exploiting asteroids and other off-planet sources of raw materials. I hope
we also transfer most heavy industry to geosynchronous industrial complexes
at the terminals of space elevators. There is plenty of space in space. Way
more than on earth.

For details, see Clarke, "Profiles of the Future."

- Jed

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