The god El, has also very polytheistic origins. Not that its also related to the name Allah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity) There are plenty of bibliography in that page to corroborate with that information. 2013/1/2 Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> > Lomax claims that it matters not what allah's origins were. OK. Because > it is clear from archeological evidence that allah (al-ilah) was the pagan > moon god of arabs. He had 3 daughters that the koran initially said should > be worshipped. Later muhammed abrogated those verses saying that he was > deceived by Satan. Funny, can't allah, the supposed almighty god, protect > his prophet from deception. Can't allah keep his word (koran) pure from > error? > > The kabah was where these pagans worshipped al-ilah. The pagans walked > around kabah stone just like the muslim do today. > > My friends, if you are reading this, please research this yourself. Don't > believe me, check it out yourself. > > > > > > Jojo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" < > [email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies > > > At 04:11 AM 1/2/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote: >> >>> That is where you are wrong my friend. A TRUE Christian will not find a >>> call to Idolatry beautiful. A muslim call to prayer is a call to pray to a >>> false god (allah the moon god) in front of an idol (kabah - a meteroite >>> stone.) >>> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**No_true_Scotsman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman> >> >> Is the call to prayer a call to idolatry? This brings up the Moon God >> Allah argument, recognized immediately here, over six months ago, as >> bigotry. >> >> The claim is that "Allah" is a Moon God, allegedly because it was a name >> for a pre-Islamic god of the moon. That is arguing that the referent of a >> word is controlled by its etymology. So if someone says, "Hey, Dennis is a >> great guy!" they are praising Dionysius, the Greek God. Idolatry! >> >> No, Allah, *regardless of origin* -- and we don't care about origin, we >> care about *present meaning* -- is God, and that's not in controversy among >> Christians who speak Arabic, *except for those afflicted by the present >> claims.* Very modern. >> >> And we do not have an idol in mind when we face Mecca, and the verse that >> commands this only refers to the *direction*. It does not command worship >> of the Ancient House. It says to face "the direction of the Sacred Masjid." >> (Mosque is not an Arabic word, Masjid means, "place of prayer." >> >> I once had a prayer carpet, given to me by a Pakistani Muslim to whom it >> was a beloved object, and it had a picture of the House on it. I had this >> carpet for years, but it always, when I used it, didn't feel right. So, >> years later, because I knew it was important to him, he had prayed with it >> all over the world, I gave it back to him. He was insulted, it was part of >> an unfortunate sequence of events. This was over thirty years ago, by the >> way. >> >> We don't worship the House, we don't even worship the direction, we >> merely face it, as best we know. We seek direction from God, and we respond >> to what God has commanded. >> >> Ka'aba does not mean a stone. It means cube, and refers to the overall >> shape of the whole House. There is an ancient stone set in a corner of the >> Ka'aba. It performs no central role in Islam. Because there is a tradition >> that the stone was *reset* in the corner of the Cube by action of the >> Prophet -- he didn't actually do it himself, rather he arbitrated a dispute >> on who would be allowed to do it, *before his mission* -- there are those >> who touch this stone, to touch a place where Muhammad may have touched. >> That's a traditional practice, and could be considered a kind of worship, >> but they would never do this as part of the prayer, it would be forbidden. >> >> We don't worship the stone. I do not recall *ever* thinking of the stone >> while in prayer. >> >> So, again, Jojo is just tossing mud. He's actually claiming that many of >> my friends, people I've known well, who are Christian and who even disagree >> with me on theology, greatly, are actually *not Christians,* but only >> because they don't agree with Jojo. That is, in fact, such an un-Christian >> position that I'm going to assert: >> >> Jojo is not a TRUE Christian. >> >> And that's been totally obvious for a long time. Jojo is not following >> Jesus, he's not imitating Jesus, he's not teaching what Jesus taught, he's >> not demonstrating what Jesus demonstrated, he is, by pretending to be a >> Christian, *defaming* the Christian religion. That he may be pretending >> this even to himself would only demonstrate the depth of his denial. >> >> (As certain Muslims do with Islam through their own extremities.) >> >> >> > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ [email protected]
