Eric, I forgot to mention. 

What would you do if you are the subject of constant insults and ridicule for 
your views?  Would you not lash out in retaliation?  Your bias is why I grow 
more instransigent each day.  You express "grave concern" that islam may be 
"assaulted" but express no equal concern that I have been insulted time and 
time again here for my beliefs in the Bible.

Well you ask "what you would do if you were in Abd's situation".  Why don't you 
ask another equally valid question. "What would you do if you were in Jojo's 
position."

This problem has a very very very simple solution you know.



Jojo



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric Walker 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:02 PM
  Subject: [Vo]:something to consider


  I am starting this as a new thread because many people are starting to skip 
entire threads.  See my questions below.


  I wrote "If that's the best we can do for now, how to address Abd's pressing 
concern about having his background and religion subject to constant assault on 
this list?"  But really this is a concern that pertains to all of us.  We need 
a list that is hospitable to all people who can make a competent contribution.  
(I do not mean *everybody*.  I do not mind in the slightest if list mods take 
action to make the list quite inhospitable to those who for whatever reason are 
too immature to contribute much of value.)


  Think about what you would do if you were in Abd's situation.  Perhaps you 
would just abide the assault quietly.  Perhaps you would leave the list.  But 
that would not make the environment any more hospitable for others in shoes 
similar to yours.  You may not respond in the way that Abd has.  But we should 
appreciate that he's being put in a very awkward position and that he has 
broader interests in mind.


  Eric




  On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


    On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> 
wrote:


      Oh, I'm quivering, shaking with the possibility that *Jed Rothwell* might 
filter me out.

      I am not going to subscribe to VortexB-l. This is supposedy a moderated 
list. If it stays unmoderated, I won't be here long.


    Hate to say it, but the troll is starting to win.  People are starting to 
lose patience with one another.  I think Steve Johnson has been on this list 
since early days.


    Any word on Bill?  Is he ok?


    How long do we suffer the present situation until we reconstitute under 
something like Google Groups, with Terry or another longtimer as mod? Or should 
everyone who can't stand the situation add he who shall not be named to a 
killfile?  If that's the best we can do for now, how to address Abd's pressing 
concern about having his background and religion subject to constant assault on 
this list?


    Eric

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