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mic 2013/1/9 leaking pen <[email protected]>: > Hah! No, I'm Alexander Hollins, at some point gmail started putting an old > pen name (pun intended) as my first and last. I'm still not sure how that > change happened, as I didn't do it.... > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Leaking, I thought that was your real name! :-) Some sort of foreign name >> thing. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: leaking pen <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:58 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules >> >> I'll be completely honest. My insults back at JoJo were intentional, and >> horrible behavior. I shouldn't have done it. >> >> Also, Bill, I'm trying to sign up on the list on an email that contains my >> name, and I'm not getting a response. Is signup still turned off? >> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:02 AM, William Beaty <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Vorl Bek wrote: >>> >>>> Good rule. But to be clear, I don't think the insulters are >>>> necessarily trolls, which are defined, as I understand it, as >>>> people who are insincere and post to get a rise out of others. >>> >>> >>> I'm an internet troll myself, and I recognize one of my own. I've never >>> met any incincere, intentional trolls, but I've encountered numbers of my >>> own type online, plus the occasional one on vortex. The problem is easy to >>> see from inside. >>> >>> We trolls live in a reality-warp, a dishonest world, we're buried in >>> major psychological projection and hypocrisy. We refuse to take the tinyest >>> responsibility for our actions, or to ever view them in a bad light. Any >>> problems which "inexplicably" arise are always, always, someone elses' >>> fault, and we're expert at convincing others that this is true. Most of us >>> keep up a conversation where we apply derogatory labels to those around us, >>> with glowing descriptions of ourselves. Hence we're usually delivering >>> obvious insults to others, while labeling our own rotten behavior as pure >>> and justifed deeds. >>> >>> Me, I suspect that most of us got this way from physical/emotional abuse >>> as children. But I've only heard about this from a very few. For excessive >>> details on this type of troll or "flamer personality," See: >>> >>> Flamer Personality Disorder >>> http://amasci.com/weird/flamer >>> >>> MS Peck, "The People of the Lie" >>> http://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/0684848597 >>> >>> >>>> The people who took part in the recent rubbish-fest were all >>>> sincere as far as I could tell, and I think they recognized that >>>> the insults directed at them were sincerely meant. >>> >>> >>> If both sides *label* their oppenent's insults as grevious disgusting >>> slanders, while *labeling* their own insults as justified responses or "I'm >>> just telling you truths about yourself" ...then you're dealing with trolls. >>> The constant dishonest labeling is the symptom. The hypocricy is the >>> symptom, e.g. my own misbehavior is pure and justifed and beyond reproach, >>> while your *identical* misbehavior is completely disgusting and requires >>> prompt retribution. (But outsiders see things differently. Well, they do if >>> they can avoid being drawn into the troll's campaign of distortion. >>> Attempting to see things from the troll's viewpoint can be a big mistake.) >>> >>> >>> >>> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) >>> William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >>> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com >>> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair >>> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci >>> >> >
